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hewqtor
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Hi,
I have a very big problem when driving Beechcraft Baron which is used for CPL. It's called a complex aircraft, right?
My problem is when I use the plane, the bank level also not stable - it always tends to the left and the elevators are very very super sensitive. I don't have this problem when driving other airacrafts. Can anyone tell what's wrong with this Baron? |
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pilatflyr
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Joined: Oct 10, 2005
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:22 pm |
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| well, have you tried adjusting the trims? Those will usually correct it. is it in certain weather conditions or settings? -----------PiLAt FlyR-----------
this stuff is crazy! |
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mossy
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Joined: Sep 05, 2006
Posts: 347
Location: London
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| Posted: Mon Nov 27, 2006 6:59 pm |
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| does the baron have aileron trims? |
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Guest Ed
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 3:47 am |
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hewqtor, did you try changing the sensitivity on the elevators and rudder in FS09 Settings? I have always found the Baron to be a bit twitchy and hard to fly by hand, anyhow, but some planes are just more sensitive than others.
Ed |
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pilatflyr
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Joined: Oct 10, 2005
Posts: 364
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 4:23 am |
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| how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land? -----------PiLAt FlyR-----------
this stuff is crazy! |
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earthqu8kes
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Joined: Oct 08, 2005
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Location: Where do you want me to be?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:12 am |
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pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land? RANDOM!!!  |
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pilatflyr
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:15 am |
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just sayin'...
but still. i don't like it that much because the nose drops so fast when you don't trim it right-----------PiLAt FlyR-----------
this stuff is crazy! |
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earthqu8kes
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Joined: Oct 08, 2005
Posts: 584
Location: Where do you want me to be?
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:17 am |
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| well if you practice over and over again it will be easier..."practice makes perfect (sometimes )" |
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pilatflyr
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Joined: Oct 10, 2005
Posts: 364
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:18 am |
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| sometimes, being the key word there. i still struggle with it...though i don't fly it anymore -----------PiLAt FlyR-----------
this stuff is crazy! |
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CRJCapt
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Joined: Sep 12, 2005
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Location: Ohio,USA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:33 pm |
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hewqtor wrote:Hi,
I have a very big problem when driving Beechcraft Baron which is used for CPL. It's called a complex aircraft, right?
My problem is when I use the plane, the bank level also not stable - it always tends to the left and the elevators are very very super sensitive. I don't have this problem when driving other airacrafts. Can anyone tell what's wrong with this Baron?
The Barron is a very sensitive aircraft, that's just the nature of the beast. Check that you controller is calibrated and your sensitivities and Null zones are set to an acceptable level. I recommend having you sensitivities set to 50% of travel, Null zones for Elevator and ailerons at 10%. Set Throttle sensitivity to 100% with Null zone of 5%-0%. Ensure the aileron and Rudder trims are centered.  |
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SpiderWings
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Joined: Nov 04, 2004
Posts: 769
Location: KVEL - USA
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 5:34 pm |
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pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I've not had a problem with it. I think the Piper J-3 cub is the toughest for me to land and after that the Baron was no problem. |
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mossy
First Officer
Joined: Sep 05, 2006
Posts: 347
Location: London
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| Posted: Tue Nov 28, 2006 9:26 pm |
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| Ive never had a problem with the baron. The plane I find hard to land is my twin otter. It's far too twitchy for something of its size. |
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Guest Ed
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 5:25 am |
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pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I think the Extra 300 is the hardest to land, because it is so light and doesn't have flaps. If you pull back on the stick to slow down and/or flare, it starts climbing again. The crazy thing won't stick to the runway, it just keeps trying to fly!
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pilatflyr
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:00 am |
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| i could agree to that. it just takes practice, it's not really HARD -----------PiLAt FlyR-----------
this stuff is crazy! |
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earthqu8kes
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| Posted: Wed Nov 29, 2006 6:37 am |
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Guest Ed wrote:pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I think the Extra 300 is the hardest to land, because it is so light and doesn't have flaps. If you pull back on the stick to slow down and/or flare, it starts climbing again. The crazy thing won't stick to the runway, it just keeps trying to fly!
Ed
you are a mind reader... |
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Concorde105
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Joined: Sep 03, 2006
Posts: 202
Location: America
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| Posted: Fri Dec 01, 2006 7:34 pm |
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earthqu8kes wrote:Guest Ed wrote:pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I think the Extra 300 is the hardest to land, because it is so light and doesn't have flaps. If you pull back on the stick to slow down and/or flare, it starts climbing again. The crazy thing won't stick to the runway, it just keeps trying to fly!
Ed
you are a mind reader...
You are a mind reader. |
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SpiderWings
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Location: KVEL - USA
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earthqu8kes wrote:Guest Ed wrote:pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I think the Extra 300 is the hardest to land, because it is so light and doesn't have flaps. If you pull back on the stick to slow down and/or flare, it starts climbing again. The crazy thing won't stick to the runway, it just keeps trying to fly!
Ed
you are a mind reader...
It can be landed!!???? 
j/k |
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Guest Ed
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| Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:41 am |
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SpiderWings wrote:earthqu8kes wrote:Guest Ed wrote:pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I think the Extra 300 is the hardest to land, because it is so light and doesn't have flaps. If you pull back on the stick to slow down and/or flare, it starts climbing again. The crazy thing won't stick to the runway, it just keeps trying to fly!
Ed
you are a mind reader...
It can be landed!!????
j/k
No, it can only be crashed. 
Ed |
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ARD-DC
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Posts: 507
Location: Rotterdam Proximity - Holland
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^^ Oh well, Gives Moderators something to do...
A valid opportunity to press that "Delete" button this time... you Mods will know; it's the button that keeps staring at you in so many threads, and sometimes even seems to yell at you: "Press me, Press me now!"... |
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spitfiresrule
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Joined: May 17, 2005
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| Posted: Tue Feb 20, 2007 1:12 am |
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pilatflyr wrote:how many of you agree that the Baron 58 is one of the hardest default aircraft to land?
I find it is pretty easy to land! |
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CRJCapt
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Joined: Sep 12, 2005
Posts: 4289
Location: Ohio,USA
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| Posted: Thu Feb 22, 2007 5:43 pm |
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| I think the DH-88 Comet is harder to land than the Barron, it's one of the historical aircraft in FS9. |
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ARD-DC
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Location: Rotterdam Proximity - Holland
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:09 am |
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CRJCapt wrote:I think the DH-88 Comet is harder to land than the Barron, it's one of the historical aircraft in FS9.
Not to land... to taxi it is a nightmare! |
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CRJCapt
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Location: Ohio,USA
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| Posted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 12:42 pm |
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| The Ryan NYP "The Spirit Of St. Louis" has to be the most challenging. |
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SpiderWings
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Location: KVEL - USA
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CRJCapt wrote:The Ryan NYP "The Spirit Of St. Louis" has to be the most challenging.
I agree. I've not had a hard time with the Baron at all.
I also think the Piper J3 Cub is a tough one to land... well to land isn't bad, but to keep it under control til you slow down is a real fun challenge. But it can be mastered and I highly recommend it as a great learning experience and a way to fine tune your touch. Its become one of my favorites now. |
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spitfiresrule
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 9:57 pm |
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SpiderWings wrote:CRJCapt wrote:The Ryan NYP "The Spirit Of St. Louis" has to be the most challenging.
I agree. I've not had a hard time with the Baron at all.
I also think the Piper J3 Cub is a tough one to land... well to land isn't bad, but to keep it under control til you slow down is a real fun challenge. But it can be mastered and I highly recommend it as a great learning experience and a way to fine tune your touch. Its become one of my favorites now.
The J3 is nice but its to slow for me and the avionics just don't cut it lol . I find the Super Decathlon is way better and equally as challenging to land. |
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SpiderWings
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Location: KVEL - USA
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| Posted: Tue Feb 27, 2007 11:06 pm |
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| I'll have to check into one of those. |
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