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crosscheck9 Guest

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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 10:08 pm |
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Does anyone know where I can find some detailed information about the fuel leak of Air Transat Flight 236. Just to let you know what happened on the flight........
Air Transat 236 was scheduled to go from Toronto to Lisbon (A330)
Over the atlantic, they found a fuel leak, which ultimately, led the pilots into an 18 minute glide. (I have no idea how!!!)
I just wanted to see if I could find good info on it.
PS: if you can find info about Swissair Flight 111, that would be great too.
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RadarMan Chief Captain


Joined: Aug 25, 2003 Posts: 16805 Location: U.S.A
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makonnenl First Officer


Joined: Nov 04, 2004 Posts: 151
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:34 am |
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I have watched both of them on the National Geographic "minute from disaster" documentary film.
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PH First Officer


Joined: Dec 10, 2004 Posts: 379
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 2:07 pm |
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| I watched a program about Transat 236 and I think the thing that saved evryone on board was the fact that they flight was rerouted a couple hundred miles South of thier flight planned route. Had this not happened they would have had to ditch. Good job by the crew in landing the hevy "glider" on the other hand should they have noticed the fuel problem? |
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tomthetank Chief Captain


Joined: Aug 24, 2003 Posts: 3591 Location: Newport S/Wales
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99jolegg Chief Captain


Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 5430 Location: UK
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Flyaway Site Admin


Joined: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 1234 Location: UK
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:57 pm |
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| I watched the documentary on Discovery about the Air Transat flight, it landed in the Azores - very lucky flight. |
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PH First Officer


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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 6:55 pm |
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| Flying "crossed controls" in my experience is similar to "side-slipping" where one would use right aileron and left rudder. This allows you to fly crabbed so that you can descend faster but because you are putting the side of the ac (flying unbalanced) into the airflow you create more drag and therefore do not increase your speed. |
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99jolegg Chief Captain


Joined: Jun 26, 2004 Posts: 5430 Location: UK
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crosscheck9 Guest

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Posted: Mon Jan 03, 2005 8:52 pm |
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| i just watched an episode on seconds from diasaster of BA Flight 111. The windshield of the cockpit was ripped off, but they managed to land (amazingly). I'm not gonna go into details, but if you notice, their flight was the same number as that of the tragedy of swissair. It must be like that consipiracy of the word Titan for the name of a ship. (Titanic, + Titan oil rig) |
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Jararachani Guest

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Posted: Wed Sep 14, 2005 2:22 am |
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| The complete investigation of the "causes" and final assessment of the near disaster are online (i.e the Portuguese Air Investigation). |
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FHeselton Trainee


Joined: Jul 12, 2004 Posts: 90 Location: Linden VA, USA
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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:57 am |
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| Actually the British Airways flight that lost the windscreen was BA5390 from Birmingham to Malaga, Spain. The aircraft was a BAC-111. For more information on the flight try the following: |
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SoCalRick First Officer


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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:43 pm |
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PH wrote:Good job by the crew in landing the hevy "glider" on the other hand should they have noticed the fuel problem?
They did notice and monitor the fuel problem but it appeared to be a computer malfunction at first, and they couldn't do a visual confirmation because it was too dark outside to see the stream of fuel trailing from the engine.
The fault was traced back to maintenance as a bracket had been substituted because the supervisor was under pressure to get the bird flying. Anyway, the substitute bracket, though just a fraction of an inch smaller than the original, allowed hydrolic lines to rub against the fuel line until it leak and then ruptured.
The flight crew did an astonishing job. If they would have had to put it down in the water the majority on board would have perished. |
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PH First Officer


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Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 7:37 pm |
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| I asked the wrong question........they noticed it but did not thoroughly monitor it. What should happen if you believe there is a malfunction is you monitor the situation not guess because it is out of the ordinary that it is a malfunction. Had they done regular checks of the total fuel on board/burn they could have established the starboard engine was "burning" much more than the port and looked at crossfeeding. End of the day they did a good job landing and no lives lost but it could have been avoided. |
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