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    PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 5:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    414David wrote:
    I don't get it... even with an installer it doesn't work.. what should I write in the installationdirectory if I havn't installed the original game in C:program/microsoft games/Flightsimulator 9? Maybe I should just reinstall the whole game and start all over again.


    First of all David, I do hope that you got the file I linked you to from avsim.com.
    If you just get any other F/A-18E Super Hornet from another site, there is a good chance that it will be a different package which can mean that the installation procedures are different and often difficult to figure out.

    Presuming you have the file I've linked you to, do the following:

    First create a temporary folder preferably on your desktop. I'm stressing FIRST because this installer will not let you create a new folder during the process and you'd have to cancel and start all over again.

    After you've extracted the contents of the .zip file, you'll end up with a folder called: fa18sh41. Open it and double-click on the 'fa18sh41 Self Extractor...' it's the icon that looks like a microwave oven. This is the actual installer.

    Now the important part: When the Extractor/Wizard arrives at the 'Select the folder where files will be installed..' - you must change the target destination by clicking on the Browse button and negotiating to the temporary folder you've created at the beginning.

    In my case it's: Desktop / f-18. Click OK and continue with the installation/extraction wizard.

    No open the temporary folder you've created and inside you'll find the following:

    2 text documents

    1 install DAT file

    1 Aircraft folder

    1 Effects folder


    Open the Aircraft folder and you'll find the FA-18E_SuperHornet folder. Copy and paste this folder into your "fs9 Aircraft Directory".

    Open the Effects folder and you'll find five effects inside. Copy and paste those five effects into your "fs9 Effects Folder".

    This completes the installation process. Keep it simple, do only what I've outlined above at this stage and you'll have the complete aircraft ready to fly.

    You've probably noticed that there is also a folder called 'Advanced Setup'. Save that folder somewhere - you can look into it and figure it out at a later stage. It is NOT required for the installation we've discussed above. It is an extra for a time when you like to experiment with enhancements.

    A final word of advice, if I may be so bold: The sooner you manage to tear yourself away from this library and start using avsim.com, flightsim.com and simvation instead to name but three of the major libraries, the less frustration you will suffer and you'll be saving valuable time which can be used for flying aircraft Very Happy

    Draken Arrow http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=draken&CatID=fs2004ac&Go=Search

    Viggen Arrow http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=viggen&CatID=fs2004ac&Go=Search

    Jas Arrow http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?DLID=&Name=&FileName=gripen_ss.zip&Author=&CatID=root
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    PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 2:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Well I will now proceed and do the exact same thing that you just explained to me. My god, the draken, viggen and Jas addons are incredible... thank you very much..
    now back to my installation.. thanks again..
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    PostPosted: Fri Feb 23, 2007 3:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    HAAALLELUJAA!!!! There it is now up and running, well I've learned something new about this kind of installation procedure all thanks to you. THe Viggen addon doesn't have a cockpit nor any sound.. is it supposed to be that way? I'm very impressed with the Draken addon, very impressed.
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    PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 12:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    414David wrote:
    THe Viggen addon doesn't have a cockpit nor any sound.. is it supposed to be that way?


    Well yes and no. Sometimes the person who uploads the file just simply forgets which I suspect could be the case here since the file description says 'flyable'. Of course it's flyable without a panel and sound - but hey Rolling Eyes

    Often the files don't include their own individual panel or sound because they either don't exist or to include them in the .zip file would simply make the download too big.

    Don't give up on the Viggen yet, the simplest way is to copy and paste a sound folder and a panel folder out of an existing aircraft (one you have) and paste them into your SAJA37 Viggen folder.

    Note: Before you copy / paste a sound or panel folder over to another aircraft, open them and make sure that they actually contain sounds and bitmaps respectively.
    Often the sound and panel folders only contain a .cfg file which alias the sound or panel to another aircraft. If you don't have that aircraft or you have renamed it, those .cfg files won't find whatever their aliased to.

    If you need any more clarification on this or don't understand the 'aliasing principle', it's really pretty simple. Just ask.
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    PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Sorry to hijack your thread but i wonder if Tailhook can answer a question for me. I have carriers 2006 and in the carriers section in "country" in fs9 there are about 40/50 carriers ish, but only about 15 of them actually show up, if you select the others the aircraft is just sitting on the water, i know this because i have selected each and every one and made a note of the ones that actually show up (it took ages Sad ).Any idea why the others are'nt there?
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    PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I can't tell you offhand Welshflyer, I haven't gotten around re-installing it yet. I do remember that during a previous install I had problems because I didn't pay enough attention to the 'Ocean Flatten Files' -- something about priority in the list.
    Check your installation procedure again and see if you've missed something.

    I know I'm not answering your question, but the best way of finding the problem is always to go through the procedure for oneself. Give me a day or two, I will get stuck into it and see if I have the same problem. I'll get back to you on that.

    Actually, I just saw this in the Install Instructions:
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    To find the carriers go to the Flightsim "World/Go to Airport..." menu and type in the Airport ID: ACXX [XX = number of the carrier 01 to 18] or Airport name: "U" and a list of the USS (carrier Names) will show up.

    This could indicate that only 18 of the carriers have a hard deck.

    This is "From the original author-Notepad" :

    Quote:
    18 CARRIERS ARE INCLUDED:

    * CV-67 USS Kennedy
    -- Persian Gulf, off the coast of Kuwait (N29:10 E48:35)
    -- Atlantic Ocean, East of Jacksonville NAS, FL USA (N30:10 W80:40)

    * CVN-68 USS Nimitz
    -- Sea of Japan, near South/North Korea border (N38:40 E128:47)
    -- Tasman Sea, off New South Wales, Australia (S31:17 E153:22)

    * CVN-69 USS Eisenhower
    -- Atlantic Ocean, East of Oceana NAS, VA USA (N37:02 W75:01)
    -- Gulf of Sidra, off the coast of Libya (N31:08 E18:09)

    * CVN-70 USS Vinson
    -- Indian Ocean, off the coast of Somalia (N3 E47)
    -- South China Sea, Southwest of Taiwan (N22 E119)

    * CVN-71 USS Roosevelt
    -- Arabian Sea, West of Karachi, Pakistan (N25 E66:19)
    -- Bay of Bengal, off the coast of Burma (Myanmar) (N20:30 E92)

    * CVN-72 USS Lincoln
    -- Gulf of Santa Catalina, Northwest of Miramar NAS, CA USA (N33:15 W117:45)

    * CVN-73 USS Washington
    -- East Mediterranean Sea, near Lebanon and Israel (N33:05 E34:43)
    -- Lower Adriatic Sea, near Albania and Montenegro (N41:37 E19:03)

    * CVN-74 USS Stennis
    -- Strait of Juan de Fuca, West of Whidbey Island NAS, WA USA (N48:19 W123:59)
    -- Pacific Ocean, off the coast of Nicaragua (N12:10 W87:24)

    * CVN-75 USS Truman
    -- North Sea, East of Scotland (N56:30 E0:30) (not so far from oil rigs depicted in UKOILRIG.ZIP)
    -- Atlantic Ocean, off the coast of Sao Paolo, Brazil (S25 W46)
    -- South of Ivory Coast, Africa (S5 W5)


    My guess is at this stage that the remaining carriers are AI only Think
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    PostPosted: Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Tailhook wrote:
    414David wrote:
    THe Viggen addon doesn't have a cockpit nor any sound.. is it supposed to be that way?


    Well yes and no. Sometimes the person who uploads the file just simply forgets which I suspect could be the case here since the file description says 'flyable'.


    Ok, well i will try but im not sure about what you mean... My english is quite good but not that good..
    But for now Im just in love with my Draken, gripen and superhornet
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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 12:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    414David wrote:
    Tailhook wrote:
    414David wrote:
    THe Viggen addon doesn't have a cockpit nor any sound.. is it supposed to be that way?


    Well yes and no. Sometimes the person who uploads the file just simply forgets which I suspect could be the case here since the file description says 'flyable'.


    Ok, well i will try but im not sure about what you mean... My english is quite good but not that good..
    But for now Im just in love with my Draken, gripen and superhornet


    Your English is very good indeed... maybe that's why you don't understand my gibberish. Laughing

    I personally am not that fond of the Draken though it's a nice complete package. I've put the sound and the panel of one of my F-14s into the Viggen and it works perfectly well. I'm not sure how realistic the FDE is, but this thing takes off like a rocket. Accordingly, she takes her time to bleed speed despite spoiler. It's a beautiful visual model with good quality textures. I'm gonna look at the Gripen next.

    Which carrier are you using then?
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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Welshflyer wrote:
    Sorry to hijack your thread but i wonder if Tailhook can answer a question for me. I have carriers 2006 and in the carriers section in "country" in fs9 there are about 40/50 carriers ish, but only about 15 of them actually show up, if you select the others the aircraft is just sitting on the water, i know this because i have selected each and every one and made a note of the ones that actually show up (it took ages Sad ).Any idea why the others are'nt there?


    OK I've installed the carr2006 by the book. The result is a total of 23 hard deck carriers. I select them by typing into the 'Airport ID:' -AC and AC01 through AC23 appear. I haven't tried every single one, but about 5 or 6 in different parts of the world and they are all identical.

    You say about 40/50 carriers, I can only assume that you've got other carrier packages installed as well and that they somehow got mixed up.

    Inside the Addon Scenery/Carriers2006/Scenery Folder there are 18 AF2xx .BGLs and 18 Trafficxx .BGLs respectively, yet I have 23 carriers -- I can't work it out.

    We should keep in mind that this package has been updated and repackaged several times over the years and reading the documentation of the different versions makes your head spin.
    Sorry Welshflyer, this is an unsatisfactory result. But while we're still at it I'd like to know how you manage to take off in the lovely Viking (thanks for the link) -seeing that the carrier2006 package doesn't have a cat?? Oh I can take off - I mean I can clear the carrier deck but keep ending up in the drink Tomato

    What's the secret? Help!
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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 2:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Try using this addon at Avsim. rcbco-20.zip
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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 7:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    The gentleman above beat me to the answer,you can install in any aircraft to allow takeoff from carriers! It can be a bit tricky though so if you have any probs i'll post the aircraft cfgs that i adapted!
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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    tailhook wrote:
    Your English is very good indeed... maybe that's why you don't understand my gibberish. Laughing

    I personally am not that fond of the Draken though it's a nice complete package. I've put the sound and the panel of one of my F-14s into the Viggen and it works perfectly well. I'm not sure how realistic the FDE is, but this thing takes off like a rocket. Accordingly, she takes her time to bleed speed despite spoiler. It's a beautiful visual model with good quality textures. I'm gonna look at the Gripen next.

    Which carrier are you using then?



    Well Thank you sir, my english teacher is not sharing your opinion.. but that might have to do with other things.. Anyways, do you think you can send me your F/14 panel and sound that you are using for the Viggen. The f-14 and viggen along with the f-16 are from the same era so i think thats why the f-14 panel get along with the viggen. Well maybe I Like the Draken because my dad was so close to become a fighterpilot and if he would have he would have flown a draken and maybe Viggen.

    anyways, I would be very happy if you would send me the cocpit and sound youre using for your viggen, you can mail me at david_svensson88hotmail.com
    Thanks again for your effort to bring me some sanity in this world of madness.
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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Tailhook, i thought i'd post a lttle info on this Rcb gauge thing.
    Once you have installed the gauges into FS9.
    If you see "window04" in the window titles, i added this after the last entry which was window03 in this case.
    Then added the actual window04 information after window03(see below).
    The RCB Gauge then appears at the left hand side of the cockpit.You can increase the launch speed by placing the cursor over the numbers,and then arm the launch gauge by clicking the switch.Be aware though that you do not have to press this switch to launch, as soon as you hit the brakes keyboard (period) tab you will be launched.




    [Window Titles]
    Window00=Main Panel
    Window01=Enlarged PFD
    Window02=Electrics
    Window03=GPS
    window04=Meatball
    window05=Radio/CD Player

    [VIEWS]
    VIEW_FORWARD_WINDOWS=0,20,90,GPS_PANEL

    VIEW_FORWARD_DIR=3.000, 0.000, 0.000



    //--------------------------------------------------------
    [Window00]
    file_1024=main.bmp
    size_mm=1024
    window_size_ratio=1.000
    position=7
    visible=1
    ident=0
    window_size= 1.000, 1.000
    window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

    gauge00=S3B.N1, 803,482,50,180
    gauge01=S3B.N2, 838,482,50,180
    gauge02=S3B.Power, 876,482,50,180
    gauge03=S3B.Temp, 908,482,50,180
    gauge04=S3_Gauges!PFD, 446,452,100,100
    gauge05=S3_Gauges!HSI, 445,548,102,102
    gauge06=S3_Gauges!VSI Indicator, 341,603,56,56
    gauge07=S3_Gauges!Altitude Indicator, 338,518,62,62
    gauge08=S3B.airsp, 332,431,73,74
    gauge09=S3_Gauges!Radar Altitude Indicator, 254,533,62,62
    gauge10=S3B.Clock2, 268,468,46,46
    gauge11=S3B.Standby_Att, 270,619,45,46
    gauge12=S3B.Turn, 271,694,42,42
    gauge13=S3B.adf, 421,688,54,56
    gauge14=S3B.VOR1, 343, 694 ,48,47
    gauge15=S3B.Flaps, 703,703,43,42
    gauge16=S3_Gauges!Elevator Trim Indicator, 552,701,43,43
    gauge17=S3_Gauges!G Force Indicator, 492,700,43,43
    gauge18=S3B.Compass, 974,73,48,51
    gauge19=S3B.AOA2, 612,701,43,42
    gauge20=S3B.aoa, 2097,763,64,170
    gauge21=S3_Gauges!GPS, 188,634,25,25
    gauge22=S3_Gauges!ATC, 215,634,25,25
    gauge23=S3_Gauges!Map, 188,662,25,25
    gauge24=S3_Gauges!Pedestal, 215,662,25,25
    gauge25=S3_Gauges!Left Fuel Pump, 532,4,22,22
    gauge26=S3_Gauges!Right Fuel Pump, 573,3,22,22
    gauge27=S3_Gauges!Oil Pressure Indicator, 808,689,30,30
    gauge28=S3_Gauges!Oil Pressure Indicator 2, 861,687,30,30
    gauge29=S3_Gauges!Hydraulic Pressure Indicator, 805,727,30,30
    gauge30=S3_Gauges!Hydraulic Pressure Indicator, 861,727,30,30
    gauge31=S3B.aoa, 384,304,25,70
    gauge32=S3_Gauges!Checklist, 188,689,25,25
    gauge33=S3B.landing-gear, 79,668,39
    gauge34=S3_Gauges!AP HDG Adjust, 586,654,24,24
    gauge35=S3_Gauges!Altitude Knob, 332,568,16,16
    gauge36=rcb-miljet!Icon_Ball, 312,227,12,13
    gauge37=dsd_catapult!catapult, 0,330,66,30,300150
    gauge38=dsd_arrester!arrester, 0,300,40,30

    //--------------------------------------------------------
    [Window01]
    file=digi_large.bmp
    file_1024=digi_large.bmp
    size_mm=651
    window_size_ratio=1.000
    position=0
    visible=0
    ident=20
    window_size= 0.770, 1.000
    window_pos= 0.000, 0.000

    gauge00=S3_Gauges!PFD, 394,42,213,213
    gauge01=S3_Gauges!HSI, 394,260,213,213
    gauge02=S3_Gauges!VSI Indicator, 187,353,137,137
    gauge03=S3_Gauges!Altitude Indicator, 186,188,137,137
    gauge04=S3B.airsp, 183,25,143,143
    gauge05=S3_Gauges!Radar Altitude Indicator, 17,222,137,137
    gauge06=S3B.Clock2, 50,93,107,107
    gauge07=S3B.Standby_Att, 50,385,110,110
    gauge08=S3B.Turn, 43,538,110
    gauge09=S3B.adf, 356,530,116,121
    gauge10=S3B.VOR1, 194,537,120,120
    gauge11=S3_Gauges!GPS, 392,495,25,25
    gauge12=S3_Gauges!ATC, 422,495,25,25
    gauge13=S3_Gauges!Map, 519,496,25,25
    gauge14=S3_Gauges!Pedestal, 551, 496 ,25,25
    gauge15=S3_Gauges!Checklist, 597,495,25,25
    gauge16=S3_Gauges!Altitude Knob, 182,303,24,24
    gauge17=S3_Gauges!AP HDG Adjust, 469,495,24,24


    //--------------------------------------------------------
    [Window02]
    file=electrics.bmp
    file_1024=electrics.bmp
    size_mm=174
    window_size_ratio=1.000
    position=0
    visible=0
    ident=90
    window_size= 0.210, 1.000
    window_pos= 0.800, 0.000

    gauge00=S3_Gauges!Engine Starter, 102,250,38,36
    gauge01=S3_Gauges!Left Fuel Pump, 35,264,22,22
    gauge02=S3_Gauges!Right Fuel Pump, 70,263,22,22
    gauge03=S3_Gauges!Landing Light Switch, 102,340,18,18
    gauge04=S3_Gauges!Avionics Switch, 104,493,18,18
    gauge05=S3_Gauges!Battery Switch, 104,471,18,18
    gauge06=S3_Gauges!Beacon Lights Switch, 102,386,18,18
    gauge07=S3_Gauges!Navigation Lights Switch, 102,363,18,18
    gauge08=S3_Gauges!Panel Lights Switch, 102,408,18,18
    gauge09=S3_Gauges!Left Generator Switch, 104,518,18,18
    gauge10=S3_Gauges!Right Generator Switch, 104,545,18,18
    gauge11=bendix_king_radio.ap, 3,47,170,47
    gauge12=bendix_king_radio.nav_comm_1, 3,95,170,64
    gauge13=bendix_king_radio.nav_comm_2, 3,159,170,64
    gauge14=bendix_king_radio.adf, 3, 9 ,170,38


    //--------------------------------------------------------
    [Window03]
    Background_color=0,0,0
    size_mm=512,425
    window_size_ratio=1.000
    position=0
    visible=0
    ident=GPS_PANEL
    window_size= 0.500, 0.500
    window_pos= 0.500, 0.500

    gauge00=fs9gps!gps_500, 0,0,512,425
    //--------------------------------------------------------
    [Window04]
    size_mm=240,240
    window_size= 0.30,0.40
    window_pos= 0.34,0.00
    background_color=0,0,0
    visible=0
    ident=10011
    gauge00=rcb-miljet!Ball,0,0,240,240
    //--------------------------
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    PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 12:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Welshflyer wrote:
    The gentleman above beat me to the answer,you can install in any aircraft to allow takeoff from carriers! It can be a bit tricky though so if you have any probs i'll post the aircraft cfgs that i adapted!


    All right, thanks guys for reminding me of the rcbco-20.zip. You have no idea how many times I've downloaded this file and started reading the instructions AND postponing the project for another day.

    Welshflyer I figured you were using either rcbco-20.zip or the 3wire file by Rhys Eddy. Other sources suggest that the .DAT file used in the Abacus Flightdeck would add cat and arrcab function to any carrier.

    So it appears that Rob Barendregts file is used for individual aircraft, whereas (I think) the 3wire file is used to add cat and arrcab to any hard deck carrier.

    I was hoping to find the simplest solution as I'm a kid at heart, I'd like to take off in almost any a/c I have.
    Anyway Welshflyer, thanks for your input and effort in explaining everything so well in pics and example of .cfg. I'm hanging on to this post and start experimenting once I've won the war with the Tax Office I'm currently engaged in.

    How'd you go with your 'carrier2006' setup BTW?

    Greetings Hack

    Very Happy
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    PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2007 1:46 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    414David wrote:


    anyways, I would be very happy if you would send me the cocpit and sound youre using for your viggen...
    Thanks again for your effort to bring me some sanity in this world of madness.


    You're welcome!

    This is the soundset I'm using for the Viggen: http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004snds&DLID=68010

    You mention the F-16, the author of the above Christoffer Petersen has made a nice one for the F-16 as well: http://library.avsim.net/esearch.php?CatID=fs2004snds&DLID=84979

    Now to the panel:

    That's a bit of a problem as I got it out of Randy Shoemake's 'Ultimate Tomcat' which seems to have vanished from the file libraries with the exception of FS Planet. Arrow http://www.fsplanet.com/28062006.htm

    You could have problems downloading from there as they claim to have freeware but only let you download at particular times. They want money for FREEWARE!!

    An alternative I just found, and the file description sounds very interesting, is this one Arrow http://library.avsim.net/search.php?SearchTerm=tomcat&CatID=fs2004pan&Go=Search

    Basically you can mix and match panels and aircraft within reason.

    Very Happy
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