Air Transat flight 236

crosscheck9 · Guest

Does anyone know where I can find some detailed information about the fuel leak of Air Transat Flight 236. Just to let you know what happened on the flight........

Air Transat 236 was scheduled to go from Toronto to Lisbon (A330)

Over the atlantic, they found a fuel leak, which ultimately, led the pilots into an 18 minute glide. (I have no idea how!!!)

I just wanted to see if I could find good info on it.

PS: if you can find info about Swissair Flight 111, that would be great too.

THANKS!!!

RadarMan · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:54 am Post subject:

Air Transat Flight 236

http://www.cbc.ca/national/news/airtransat/

Swissair Flight 111

http://www.cbc.ca/news/indepth/swissair/

You want something fantastic, read this one! Shocked

http://www.wadenelson.com/gimli.html

Radar

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makonnenl · First Officer Joined: Nov 04, 2004 Posts: 144

I have watched both of them on the National Geographic "minute from disaster" documentary film.
That is so Sad

PH · First Officer Joined: Dec 10, 2004 Posts: 379

I watched a program about Transat 236 and I think the thing that saved evryone on board was the fact that they flight was rerouted a couple hundred miles South of thier flight planned route. Had this not happened they would have had to ditch. Good job by the crew in landing the hevy "glider" on the other hand should they have noticed the fuel problem?

tomthetank · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:16 pm Post subject:

http://flyawaysimulation.com/postlite1167-watch.html
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99jolegg · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 5:45 pm Post subject:

Hi,
The last of RadarMan's links was also a film, in which the 767 made an emergency landing at Gimli. A very interesting film, highly recommended. Just one question though to anyone that has seen the film or read the link above, what does it mean when it says he "did what you would do in a sail plane and cross the controls". What does this mean? I remember watching it in the film, something about ailerons i think Confused

Thanks a lot
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Flyaway · Site Admin Joined: Jun 28, 2003 Posts: 987 Location: UK

I watched the documentary on Discovery about the Air Transat flight, it landed in the Azores - very lucky flight.
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PH · First Officer Joined: Dec 10, 2004 Posts: 379

Flying "crossed controls" in my experience is similar to "side-slipping" where one would use right aileron and left rudder. This allows you to fly crabbed so that you can descend faster but because you are putting the side of the ac (flying unbalanced) into the airflow you create more drag and therefore do not increase your speed.

99jolegg · Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 7:22 pm Post subject:

Thats clever Very Happy

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crosscheck9 · Guest

i just watched an episode on seconds from diasaster of BA Flight 111. The windshield of the cockpit was ripped off, but they managed to land (amazingly). I'm not gonna go into details, but if you notice, their flight was the same number as that of the tragedy of swissair. It must be like that consipiracy of the word Titan for the name of a ship. (Titanic, + Titan oil rig)

Jararachani · Guest

The complete investigation of the "causes" and final assessment of the near disaster are online (i.e the Portuguese Air Investigation).

FHeselton · Posted: Thu Sep 15, 2005 6:57 am Post subject:

Actually the British Airways flight that lost the windscreen was BA5390 from Birmingham to Malaga, Spain. The aircraft was a BAC-111. For more information on the flight try the following:

http://www.raes.org.uk/raes/first/airworthiness/GRP/BAC111.pdf

SoCalRick · First Officer Joined: May 20, 2005 Posts: 318

PH · First Officer Joined: Dec 10, 2004 Posts: 379

I asked the wrong question........they noticed it but did not thoroughly monitor it. What should happen if you believe there is a malfunction is you monitor the situation not guess because it is out of the ordinary that it is a malfunction. Had they done regular checks of the total fuel on board/burn they could have established the starboard engine was "burning" much more than the port and looked at crossfeeding. End of the day they did a good job landing and no lives lost but it could have been avoided.

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