Geforce 6800ultra vs ATI X800 PE or PRO

gbod · Guest

I'm buliding a new computer and I want the ultimate graphics card to use with FS2004. Anyone here have experience with the Geforce 6800ultra or the ATI X800PE or X800PRO, with FS2004? I've seen the benchmarks on Toms Hardware, and the X800PE is the tops, but does anyone have real life opinions on these cards? Thanks

Fire_Emblem_Master · Posted: Fri Dec 17, 2004 12:34 am Post subject:

YOU WANT THE X800XT PE!!!! You will not be disappointed. ATI destroys Nvidia. They always have, and probably always will. If you are intending on playing Doom 3, or Half Life 2, you will NEED the X800PE. Dont believe that crock of shit that Nvidia tweaks their card to fit Doom 3. I've seen it on a Nvidia PC, i've urinated in snow with better frame rates than Nvidia's card gives for doom 3.

Did i get carried away? Yes? Good!

Guest · Posted: Mon Dec 20, 2004 1:16 am Post subject:

Dude, you obviously don't know what you're talking about. Sure the X800XT-PE has a faster clock speed and slightly faster memory clock, but not everything is about benchmarks. If you DO ever get the chance to see a nVidia 6800ULTRA in action on a real computer, and manage to get over your ATI pig-headedness (if that is a real word) you might just see the difference between the two. Like the brilliant colour quality, smoothness and clarity that only a nVIDIA card can deliver. Not saying the ATI card is shit on the other hand either, because its not! They are fuckin awesome cards!! They just don't look as good in games as nVIDIA cards do and unless they slow down in the speed section and start working on the quality side of things, its gonna stay that way. And i WOULD know because my boss has an ASUS EAX800XT-PE (the fastest X800 on the market(next to the new X850 series)). And I run a 6800ULTRA EXTREME (even better than the 6800 you think you know so much about) in my machine. If you knew a bit more than just what magazines tell you i wouldn't be writing this, so how about you just leave the technical stuff to us hardware testers hey, now run along little one ..See, its people like you that jokes are made from, you dont have any computer knowledge of your own, at all.....................

Fire_Emblem_Master · Posted: Tue Dec 21, 2004 11:51 pm Post subject:

well, it seems you got one thing correct so far, pig-headedness is a word, other than that, it seems that you are either wrong, or I just plain don't care...in your pathetic attempt to make me mad, you made me laugh, why? because in my opinion, your opinion sucks, and i have the right to my opinion. Not only that, You have shown me nothing to prove me otherwise. from what I've seen, ATI is, and always will be, better. Now, if you want, you could buy me one of these cards, and mail it to me, and I'll install it, and then I'll buy a second monitor, and use it on that one, and we'll see. But seeing is how you havent done that, you can do one thing for me.

Grow up, its not cool to swear, and you shouldn't. You ought to read the rules before you make a post.

And secondly, Mr. Hardware tester, I don't care what you have to say, i never have, and I never will. But you can rip on me if you want, eventually you'll harass me enough to where I'll simply report your repeated attempts to the authorities.

ranald · Captain Joined: Oct 12, 2004 Posts: 666

you tell him/her fire emblem master Smile

.Bloody hell he just said ATI was better than Nvidia thats just his apinion you dont have to go mad Evil or Very Mad

.You both have good points though becouse the X800XT-PE will beet 6800ultra extreme (in fps) and the 6800ultra would beet the X800XT-PE with amazing graphics Surprised

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gbod · Guest

Uhh... Thanks for the replies?

Celt(from xbitlabs forum) · Guest

Well that was a nice pissing contest, but it doesn't answer the question properly. The question was about "Ultimate performance". Sure we can argue for a very long time about the relative merits of both the x800XTPE and the GF6800Ultra until we are blue in the face. Both are great cards and for a single card solution the ATI will probably be the slightly better card, especially in "eye-candy" mode.

However the ultimate solution would be to buy a PC with a SLI capable motherboard, and to use TWO GF6800Ultras linked in SLI mode. This effectively configures the graphics so that each GPU handles half the screen resolution . . . you can turn up all the sliders to the max, have the highest resolution your monitors can handle, and the cards will just laugh in your face . . . have a look at this system from the UK:

Scan SLI System
and a review:
Hexus.net review of SLI system

RadarMan · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 5:51 pm Post subject:

Celt(from xbitlabs forum) · Guest

True, but to reiterate, this is only the benchies for a single card solution . . . an SLi rig will hugely outperform a single card solution. Actually as a side note, Gigabyte are prepping an nVidia-based Graphics card which has two GPUs and the SLi stuff onboard, so you won't need an SLi specific motherboard to make use of it . . . ouch! Either way this should provide more than enough performance for FS9, even at the sort of extreme resolutions us simmers are known for Wink

RadarMan · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 6:43 pm Post subject:

I saw a video a while back from Alien-Ware with the double video card configuration, I don't know if it's for sale now or if it was a custom board.

Radar

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Celt(from xbitlabs forum) · Guest

The Alienware box was a custom job, using some of their own technologies. However real SLi systems are now on sale (see the link in my fist post to Scan in the UK). read the Hexus review as well. If you have to money for an "ultimate rig", then you really have to put an SLi system on the list for consideration. nVidia have a certification program for motherboards and graphics cards so you can easily "build your own" SLi system as well. ATi are rumoured to have something similar in the pipeline, but nVidia delivered first. With a bit of luck there should be a few systems at the IFC this summer running SLi.

Just as a side note, I believe X-Plane uses Open-GL for it's graphics engine, so for that Sim nVidia cards have a slight edge as they seem to be better at Open-GL than ATi.

tomthetank · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:17 pm Post subject:

Just remember folks,all benchmarking progs are not a true reflection of how such and such card will run..........it is only a guide

Nvidia got caught out a while back as they specifically programed cards
to fly all the benchmarks,which it did(who knows whether Ati did /do the same thing but didnt get caught?)

Im not knocking the benchmarking progs,they are a useful tool,and have used them in the past.

Just remember its a guide

FEM you say" from what I've seen, ATI is, and always will be, better"

Well I can remember that if you got an Ati card to run smoothly 1st time 2nd 3rd or even 4th time you were very,very lucky,and the ati drivers,well there was a test of nerves for you ,should I upgrade and go through all the instabillaties again Laughing

The unified driver,what a wonderful development...................pinched from Nvidia

Someone please bring back the 3DFX Tongue

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RadarMan · Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 11:59 pm Post subject:

tomthetank · Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:15 am Post subject:

Good post

Did you know that this dueling of gfx cards is not a new idea?
Was tried in the Think

late 90s by 3DFX
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Celt(from xbitlabs forum) · Guest

Yup . . . and who bought 3dfx? Nvidia Wink

It's taken 'em long enough to convert the technology from the olf Voodoo chips to the GeForce chips though . . . but I'm glad they did . . .

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