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    PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I have a big fan on the side but its not very close to the g/card.I have 3.8 drivers running the card.I will try your sugestion now
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    PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    I got rid of all the dust and there was a lot of it.The sim still keeps locking up and I dont want to try it again unless I'm sure its going to work becouse I will have to turn off my pc by the power button which is not good for it.I dont think it is over haeting becouse I have a very big fan on the side of the pc.I have two ideas left
    1:Reduse AA and AF and other settings
    2:install fs9 again becouse I think something is not loading properly

    I would rather not reduse AA and AF becouse those are the mian reason I got the card.I dont think installing fs9 agian will work I have done it three times already
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    PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Unless you loaded some scenery or are flying the same route (some of MS's scenery un-patched can cause crashes) every time it crashes the only thing that comes to mind is heat.
    Try it with the side off, did you put the fan on the side or did it come that way.
    Side fans are supposed to blow cool air in not take hot air out.
    I would try the side off myself but it's up to you of course.
    I seriously doubt that it is AA or AF but it could be the driver itself.
    The dust around the CPU fan is bad, glad you got rid of it.
    Good luck and let us now what you decide.

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    PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    It came with the fan on it.I tried it with the side of and it crashed.What do you mean by unpatched I downloaded the 9.1patch and dont have any loaded scenery (do you mean d/loaded scenery).The man at the pc shop siad something about it might help if you have it all on the hardrive so I tried down loading the no cd crack but neither of them work.Maby I do need a a extra fan but I cant see how the 9600pro card can cause so much heat its not the best or most pawerfull card.Is a new fan expensive.
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    PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 7:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Yes I meant downloaded scenery.
    I don't know how long you have been flying but when you didn't have the new patch did it still crash or could the patch be causing the crashes.
    The no-cd cracks work, I've been using them since the sim came out and almost all the members here use them.
    Fans are very cheap.
    You can get a good one to put in the back for $10-$20 in stores, cheaper if you buy it on the net. If taking the side of didn't work the extra fan won't stop the crashes, it'll help the computer but not the crashes.
    Reload it without the patch and get new drivers for your video card.


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    PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    It did crash without the patch.With my old card the no-cd crack worked fine but now a message comes up saying that a dll application is missing what does mean?is there any way of getting rid of the patch without installing the flight sim agian.Before I got the new card I reinstall XP and after I found out the game did not work I tried agian I olso installed the game three times i d'loaded all the new drivers from ATI I d/loaded the drivers you and TTT sugestid.The pc shop just did the same thing except with a bit of formating.I play the Lord of the Rings game and that works fine although I dont play it much.I only had one scenery d/load and that was for madiera but its not there as I got rid of it I dont fly there much anyway.I'm now using the drivers on the disk that came with the card.I have proberly told you all this before but I just want to make sure you now everything maby you will spot any mistakes I have made.Thanks agian for your help RadarMan.
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    PostPosted: Tue Feb 08, 2005 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    No I'm quite certain that you cannot uninstall the MS patch, you have to reload the sim.
    You can then use the no-cd crack for the un-patched version.
    http://flyawaysimulation.com/downloads-cats-69-20-10.html

    A dll. missing, my guess is that you didn't change all the small items that needed changing when you patched the sim.

    The old drivers should work after you reinstall the sim, the card won't be as effective as it can be with new drivers but if it works leave it alone.

    Lord of the Rings probably isn't as graphic intensive as FS9.

    Uninstall, make sure all of it is gone, reinstall, don't try the crack, use disk #4 and see if it works.
    If it does work then you can use the crack.
    Stay away from the patch.


    Thumbs Up! Lets hope this works.

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    PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    So far so good but I'm not 100% sure I have not done any flights over 40 minutes.I still need to d/load the no-cd crack.
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    PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 6:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Fantastic! Thumbs Up!
    Keep us up to date as to how it is working.

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    PostPosted: Wed Feb 09, 2005 9:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    No its still doing it but this time a I think it was my monitor the following message occured
    Out of Range
    H:15 KHz
    V:14 KHz

    Max:1280x1024
    I have a flat screen 17 inch monitor
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    PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 12:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

    If a CD came with your set-up you should download the monitor drivers again.
    With all of the various problems I'd reinstall windows and all the drivers that came with it.

    You do mean a CRT with a flat screen not a LCD flat panel. Check the model and see what the maximum resolution is for it.

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    PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Sorry I made a mistake its the LCD flat panel.Is it bad?
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    PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    Its set at its max resolution 1280x1024x32 which I ran the old card with.
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    PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    LCD's are very nice, clear and bright. I like a very large (old eyes) monitor so I stick with the flat screen CRT, in larger sizes they are much cheaper and still have a good bright picture. I have a 22" 20" viewable.
    As long as you don't try to exceed the maximum your fine, you don't want to damage the monitor.
    If you are having problems with it you should see if the manufacturer has new drivers for it.

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    PostPosted: Thu Feb 10, 2005 6:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

    the web site says it deos not need driver it runs without them.I would rather not run it any lower than 1280x1024x16 becouse the sim starts to look bad it adds a lot of jaggs and strange shimering which can get so bad it looks as if the ground was moving.It was fine set at max resolution with the old card.
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