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Greekman72
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What's the difference between a car with 100ps and one with 200ps?
You can travel with both and have a nice trip...What you finally choose depends on what you finally need 
RAID 0-Array 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RAID_0
My opinion when i get something new is...If you have to do it ,do it once and do it right...
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KenTel
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Well I have 2 SATA 1 drives and 2 SATA II drives, and they are NOT in any RAID config. I have read several topics on the tech forums on this subject, and the general consensus as I read them, is that it is a waste of hardware and Raid 0 is the biggest waster of the lot. Sorry GM. And just to add I have in the same computer 2 IDE drives. Yup it has 6 drives in all, can take 2 more internal, and 2 external, well 1 really as I have 1 external now a WD 250 SATA II, mainly used for graphics backup, well my main pastime is amateur digi photog. If I go out for a day, usually come back with at least 300 shots, and sometimes up to 3 times that amount. So backups are essential for me, and DVDs can get too tedious. And I need a lot of working space.
And CG a better PSU is really essential, surprising where all the power goes. A good 'fancy' case is not over spend if it's a well designed one with a slide out motherboard tray. I'd love to have the monitor very good choice there. The cpu is one below my +4400, if you can stretch to that, it has a larger cache on L2. The graphics is a bit sparing can you not go to the 7900GT? Mind on second thought, that could be a good choice, because of DX10, less loss when you upgrade to a DX10 compat card.
If you wait, the choice might be easier, but the price could be higher. I'm glad in a way, I've already done it, but I shall lose out on the graphics update for DX10. As I have 2 7950 cards in SLI. and they are not DX10 ready. YUK! 
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Tailhook
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| And CG a better PSU is really essential, surprising where all the power goes. A good 'fancy' case is not over spend if it's a well designed one with a slide out motherboard tray. |
I wholeheartedly agree with KT here. The importance of a good PSU (if possible a well known brand with enough Watts) and a practical, decent Enclosure can not be stressed enough. This is an area where spending a few extra bucks will not be wasted and though we don't notice the benefits when the comp is new, we will as we start upgrading and adding even more peripherals.
Often overlooked and forgotten is the fact that in many countries prices for hardware and other computer related items drop substantially after Xmas. For someone who can wait this would be another point to consider.
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Solotwo
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Or just use a better looking FS2004 until Vista comes out 100% and in the mean time save up and then buy one with Vista included. Thats my plane.
This is something I've been looking at from Falcon Northwest.
SilverStone TJ04 Black Chassis
Silverstone 750Watt Modular Power Supply
Asus P5N32-SLI SE DLX - SLI Capable
Intel Core 2 Duo E6700 2.66GHz
Zalman CNPS7000LED ALCU (Intel)
Corsair 4GB TwinX DDR2 8500C5 W/EPP
2x nVidia GeForce 7950 GX2 2048mb
Creative Labs X-Fi Sound card
Western Digital 250GB 16MB Cache SATA 2
Sony DRU820A Dual Layer DVD+-/RW
Sony 16X DVD-ROM
Microsoft Windows XP Professional
Windowed Side Panel - Icon Case
Cold Cathode - Red
System Price: $ 5,282.66
Minus XP of course. For once now that I have the money I want to get a computer built thats overkill and will be able to use for quite awhle, and not a dell.
I hate computers.
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Greekman72
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Sorry for what dear friend Ken-Tel. 
We read and we decide...I disagree that its a waste of hardware but i repsect your opinion my friend.Final choices are always peronal
Different opinions are acceptable and respectable especially from people like you 
I agree about PS.
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KenTel
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Greekman you are always correct, at the end of the day, it is always our own personal choice, and our money being spent. I must be honest, I have never tried any RAID configurations, so all my knowledge? is just from reading forums/magazines etc. I have chosen not to use RAID, but will be very interested in your experience with it, when you have it.
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CrashGordon
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I wonder how a contest between RAID 0 vs a dedicated drive for FSX would turn out.
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KenTel
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Interesting question, not sure if I would bet either way on that. I have been told the most efficient way, at that time (3 months or so ago), is to have Maximum memory, and make sure your pagefile/swapfile is on the fastest drive you have, and not the same drive as your programs/data are on. I have a partition solely for my pagefile, the partition is 8Gbs, with pagefile set 1024Mb to 4096Mb, leaving plenty of headroom. This is on one of my SATA II HDs. It all works OK, but whether that thinking is now out of date, due to advances in technology, I don't know.
The rest of the performance is down to how much you can afford. Like most others, I'm continually trying to get more efficiency. Latest doo dad I have, is a lucky bid on eBay, a Logitech G7 Mouse (with no tail), very pleasing item to use, with the ability of changing the dpi, with the click of a button. Great for image editing (Make it slow), and great for gaming (set it fast), had a few mice, but this is the best!
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Greekman72
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Greekman you are always correct, at the end of the day, it is always our own personal choice, and our money being spent. I must be honest, I have never tried any RAID configurations, so all my knowledge? is just from reading forums/magazines etc. I have chosen not to use RAID, but will be very interested in your experience with it, when you have it.
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I'm not more correct than anyone here dear friend.
I read some things too and i discuss it also with people which have this configurations so i decide to proceed.
And I'm 100% satisfied from what i get.
As i have to format and to install everything from the beginning i notice difference even to the time that OS takes to be installed.
But the major differences are -In Boot (about 15' seconds faster)
-In Programs running(Even my wife ,which use Autocad for her Job(and hates computers in general  )notice difference in program's loading and saving)
-And finally FS starts faster start and load faster even the flights even the ''heavy'' Photorealistic Scenery areas(Its well know how much time does it take to load the a photorealistic scenery like Project Canarias for example)
Keep on mind that i notice all these things with the exact set-up as in my old IDE drive.Not more not less programs installed.
I'm sorry for hi-jacking Crash's post about his upgrade 
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KenTel
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With the greatest of apologies to Crash, I must answer GM72. I was unaware you were already using RAID 0 GM, so with this in my mind, if I think my set up is running too slow when eventually I have FSX, I may be tempted to give RAID a trial.
Thank You Crash for your forbearance!
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CrashGordon
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Not hijacked. Useful information.
I am now leaning toward building from components and sperading out the process over a few months so it doesn't conflict with plans to get a 52" HDTV.
I think I will start with the case, drives and other peripherals and wind up getting the motherboard, CPU GFX card and RAM last, so I can pick up an OEM Vista and not have to buy two GFX cards. I will use the information gotten here to its best advantage.
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Greekman72
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With the greatest of apologies to Crash, I must answer GM72. I was unaware you were already using RAID 0 GM, so with this in my mind, if I think my set up is running too slow when eventually I have FSX, I may be tempted to give RAID a trial.
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Apologizing to Crash too but i have to answer to Ken-Tel
According to the great system you already have you wont notice that your system runs slow...
But if you do it you wont believe too, that it could runs faster
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Greekman72
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Not hijacked. Useful information.
I am now leaning toward building from components and sperading out the process over a few months so it doesn't conflict with plans to get a 52" HDTV.
I think I will start with the case, drives and other peripherals and wind up getting the motherboard, CPU GFX card and RAM last, so I can pick up an OEM Vista and not have to buy two GFX cards. I will use the information gotten here to its best advantage. |
Good choice...
I beg for an asnwer  ....Did Legendarie C-130 runs OK in FSX???Have you install it?
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CrashGordon
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I will try to se if the model works. I am not going to attempt to see if the gauges work.
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Greekman72
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| I will try to se if the model works. I am not going to attempt to see if the gauges work. |
Why? 
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