During IFR and Autopilot

Accelor · Trainee Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Posts: 26

Which is best to do first went given instructions by ATC.

Turn to new heading, then clime or descend. Question

Or

Clime or descend, then turn to new heading. Question

I ask this because sometime it's not easy to keep up with the instructions. It's not like there is a second seat-er their to handle some of the work load. Smile

Mc_GaNgStA · First Officer Joined: Nov 05, 2004 Posts: 362

Well if you're using Autopilot it's just a matter of turning two knobs, one after the other...

Accelor · Trainee Joined: Aug 24, 2008 Posts: 26

Westernstyle · Posted: Sun Sep 07, 2008 9:44 pm Post subject:

Turn i belive
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Fasurp23 · Trainee Joined: May 04, 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Phoenix AZ

Reading through the FAR/AIM, it doesn't seem to specify which should be performed first, however I believe the instructions from ATC are carried out in order they are received. They should always give the most important instructions first. If nothing else, a turning climb or descent would probably work. If both are given at the same time, it wouldn't make much sense to climb to the new altitude, and then make a turn when you can do both at the same time.

Westernstyle · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 12:25 am Post subject:

Personally if i had to make a dession, i would turn first. Seems if you climb to 30000 feet from 22000, you would climb to that and thenn turn
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airwolfe · Trainee Joined: Jul 21, 2008 Posts: 29

I am pretty certain you are supposed to climb/descend and turn at the same time... as Fasurp23 was saying. Have you tried only carrying out one instruction at a time ? I haven't ... but would imagine ATC would request you to expedite your climb/descent or turn depending on which instruction you are not following.

99jolegg · Posted: Mon Sep 08, 2008 7:40 pm Post subject:

Real world ATC want instructions done, or want to be advised of why the commander / pilot flying cannot accept the instruction.

Other than that, it's a case of practising the two commands together...repeating the commands in your mind whilst doing them will help. e.g. left to 120, climb to 35000, left to 120, climb to 35000 etc.

Once you start doing that, your instrument scan and your instrument scan only will let you down. Scan the PFD, altimeter, VSI and HSI spending 2 or so seconds on each.
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7ECA-Captain · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:04 pm Post subject:

Just do what they ask. Initiate your turn then the climb or descent. You'll note most ATC Instructions start with Turn to... then the altitude.

Coincidence? ... I think not. Rolling Eyes

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7ECA-Captain · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 5:07 pm Post subject:

Just a thought...

FSX is a simulated situation. You're not going to get anyone upset if you don't follow realworld ATC proceedures. After all you can't really talk to a controller in FSX. You are simply bound by a few pre programmed instructions to make it more intertesting. This is why FSX is in no way to be considered as a simulator suitable for real world certification. It's all pretend... and you don't risk killing anyone. Laughing

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Tailhook · Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:55 pm Post subject: Re: During IFR and Autopilot

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