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Microsoft Flight Review

Last updated Tue, 18 Nov 2014 16:22:20 GMT
Originally posted on Wed, 29 Feb 2012 10:14:32 GMT

Microsoft Flight is a brand new franchise, set to appeal to a much wider audience than previous flight simulators. It is available as a free download and can be played for free. Although more content is unlocked if you choose to sign in to GFWL (Games For Windows Live), and more content can be bought and downloaded from the GFWL Marketplace.

Boeing Stearman flying against thunderstorms.
Boeing Stearman flying against thunderstorms.

The game launches straight into its first tutorial, which has you flying the Icon A5 around hot air balloons to introduce you to the default controls. Initially, it feels odd piloting a plane with a mouse, but the tutorials are put together extremely well and give you just enough information to help you get through your first challenge, without bogging you down with loads of information you feel you have to remember. You will end up doing some missions, maybe even this first one, more than once because you want to get a perfect score, as it always feels just within reach. This is where the option to skip the intro cut-scene of a mission that you have already played would be nice. The voice acting and dialog of the characters that guide you through the various tutorials are brilliant; both sound honest and real and aside from sometimes hearing the same lines over and over again through replaying missions, or the occasional out of sync audio-cue, the characters themselves don't get old at all.

By the end of this first mission, you feel you have really achieved something. Even if you have never played any kind of simulator before, the tutorials are built so well that everything just clicks into place. They are also intuitive; if you plugged an XBOX Controller in to your PC before launching a tutorial, the game will recognize this and adapt it visual cues accordingly. So, where it might normally say use the mouse-wheel to adjust the throttle, it might instead say use the LB and RB buttons to adjust the throttle. This was a nice surprise, I thought I would have to play it through once normally, and then figure out how to perform the same actions with a different device.

Controls

With the standard controls, the mouse is used to gently lead the nose of the aircraft. Some people will possibly be coming from a background of arcade/combat flight simulators, in which case, the feel of flying is very different. It requires care and delicate mouse inputs to adjust the planes course, unlike wrenching an analog stick one way or the other.

When the tutorials progress to start covering things like aerobatic maneuvers, the default controls might not be the best way to go. Firstly, in order to be able to perform aerobatics, the game will tell you to turn off the 'Increased Stability' option from the Gameplay Options menu. If you are playing with a keyboard and mouse, you need to use the arrow keys to perform aerobatic maneuvers. However, the arrow keys have no sensitivity so this can become quite awkward. The game will auto-detect if you plug in any external devices like controllers or joy-sticks, which are great fun to use and occasionally make some things easier.

Camera Angles/Views

There are different cameras to choose from and you'll probably end up using quite a few of them even for routine flights. Switching between them is straight forward as they are bound to the high end of the F Keys. Holding down the right mouse button while flying locks the mouse controls, and allows you to move the camera around relative to the camera mode you are in. I tend to fly in Cockpit View (unless I'm flying a basic aircraft which doesn't have a cockpit view) for the majority of a journey.  I've become proficient enough that I can perform a lot of basic operations using the actual interface in the cockpit.  When I want to look around at either my aircraft or the scenery, I switch to Chase View, which is set behind the aircraft but still shows clearly where the nose is pointing. I also use this to help me line up when I'm circling around, trying to line up for a runway. The last one I use is Top-Down view, which I only ever use to taxi from and to runways when I'm on the ground.

I was very appreciative of the fact that they have accommodated open-cockpit aircraft such as the Boeing PT-17 Stearman (FSX freeware here), in which it's very difficult to see over the nose. If you hold down the mouse-wheel, you can move your view point and effectively lean over the side of the aircraft to get a better view.

Leaning out the side of the Boeing Stearman.

Leaning out the side of the Boeing Stearman.

The camera views and controls are all well designed; I only experienced one little glitch whereby the camera seemed to mount on the propeller and spin uncontrollably. But it only happened once, and it was only on one camera mode.

The overall user-interface is simple, clean and efficient. Menus are very easy to navigate, especially after the 'Flight Tips' tutorials show you around. Within the game itself, when flying around, the heads-up-display sits at the top of the screen and doesn't interfere at all. All the information you need from wind speed, altitude, heading etc. can all be found in the one place. You can, of course, turn it off all together if you wish, and get all the information from carefully monitoring the cockpit view.

Map Screen, Hangar & Jobs

The Map Screen is where you access everything and set up your flights. It has a large clear map of all available geography in the game (the parts that you haven't purchased from GFWL are grayed out) with various icons scattered around representing airports, missions and even other players. Using the mouse you can position the icon of your aircraft anywhere you want to start flying, or click on an airport and select a runway to take-off from.

The map screen in Microsoft Flight.

The map screen in Microsoft Flight.

The Hangar is accessed through the Map Screen, and it contains all the aircraft you have unlocked and all the aircraft available for purchase through the GFWL. The Hangar offers stunning models of each aircraft, with a selection of paint schemes for each one, more of which can be unlocked by meeting certain criteria within the game. Details of each aircraft are displayed as well as a fuel option, with sliders that show how the range and weight of the aircraft changes the more or less fuel you put in.

You can choose to set the Flight Conditions from the main Map Screen. These range from setting the time of day down to the minute, the season and the date. A wide range of weather conditions such as clear skies, isolated thunderstorms, dense fog and squalls help keep things fresh. All these settings are persistent and will be active in whatever mode you play, Free Flight, Challenges, Aerocache Hunts and Missions, unless the mission has specific settings. Some of these settings can make piloting an aircraft a lot harder, so you are awarded bonus points if, for instance, you complete a challenge at night. All the flight conditions you have selected, along with your chosen aircraft are summarized in the lower left of the map screen.

There are plenty of missions that can be accessed from the Map Screen, which you can do whenever you want, providing you meet the requirements for each one; for some you may need to be a certain level or need to have done another mission. These range from things like flying an astronomer to an observatory and climbing above the clouds so they can take pictures of a comet, to tutorial missions that teach you the basics of landing tail-draggers, aerobatic shows and more.

All airports have job boards, where you can pick up small, randomly generated jobs that have you charter passengers, deliver cargo such as livestock or safely transport a nurse and her patient.

Kalaeloa Job Board.

Kalaeloa Job Board.

The first job that I took from an airport was to take a passenger 15 NM to a small diner so that he could have one of his favourite burgers. He was a nervous flyer, so I made an extra effort to try and get him there with minimal complications. Every now and again he would have some quirky comment that helped build his character, and really bolster the belief that I was actually his pilot, to the point where, when the option came up to 'Skip To Waypoint' I didn't want to. I spent a good ten minutes making sure we weren't flying too low and avoiding any unnecessary turbulence so as not to upset my passenger, and took special care not to bounce the aircraft on landing.

Challenges and Aerocaches

If you're not looking for the narrative side of things, there are plenty of small consumable experiences to be found. Alongside Free Flight, which allows you to do whatever you want, there are various Challenges and Aerocache hunts.

Flying between balloons in the Icon A5.

Flying between balloons in the Icon A5.

Challenges are good fun and more often than not, I found I was using them to hone my skills rather than earn points. There is no obligation tied to them, you don't feel you have to sit there for ages trying to get gold on all of them, if you do end up doing that it's because you want to. As the games  like Goldrush and Hoops are the only kind of experience you can't get from Free Flight.

The aerocaches are a neat idea, I think it's great that they appear regardless of what you're doing. Plus, the fact that there are so many of them, and new ones are added all the time, gives you something else that you can keep coming back for, even if only to play for ten or twenty minutes to try and find a couple.

Microsoft Live Integration

You are always online in Microsoft Flight, if you have an internet connection. By default your multi-player session type is set to public, this means that while your in a mission or searching for aerocaches, other pilots will appear in your game. You can change the setting to be completely private so that people can only join your session if you invite them, or allow people in you friends list to join you.

Some aspects of the Pilots Profile, that can be accessed from the Map Screen, are boggling. The stat-tracking is pretty much what you would expect down to little details like 'Maximum Positive G-Force', 'Strongest Crosswind' and 'Time Spent Inverted'. But there are also hundreds of small awards to obtain, some of which I can't even fathom getting. Some that will require some seriously dedicated pilots. There is one to 'accumulate 10,000 hours of total flight time; three and a half years of flying 8 hours a day. But it's nice that there are rewards in place for people that have the willpower to achieve such things.

For the record, I have been playing Microsoft Flight on a reasonably good computer. I'm running Windows Vista 64-Bit with a Q8300 Quad Core Processor 2.3Ghz, 4GB RAM and a GeForce GTS460 with roughly 2GB dedicated RAM. I have been playing on the highest settings with no fuss at all; the frame rate holds up very well. All I would have to say is that every now and again it takes awhile to load when I first launch the game.

On its highest settings the game looks fantastic overall. The aircraft are extremely detailed and the terrain textures are crisp. Weather effects are pretty seamless and even flying through thick, heavy clouds makes my aircraft chug, but not my computer. I spent some time playing the game with everything on its lowest settings and it holds up pretty well. The textures aren't nearly as crisp; it looks like some one has gone over it with a blur tool. But when you're above 700ft you really don't notice. The cockpit is probably what holds up the best on the lower settings. That and the draw distance, which remains vast and unwavering.

Conclusion

The sound is surprisingly one of my favorite aspects of this game. I love the fact that I don't hate all the characters with voices, they're all charming and full of character. I love the detail in the engine noises, how if I decide to open the doors while stall-spining from 15,000ft, I can hear the wind screaming at me as I try to level myself out and survive to deliver the chickens that I've got squawking in the cargo hold.

Icon A5 flying against increment weather.

Icon A5 flying against increment weather.

I only have a couple of small nit-picks. I would have liked it if certain scenery like the trees would lose their leaves if I decide to fly in autumn, and be big and leafy in the summer. That and the fact that when you crash (I know you're supposed to try avoid it but it does happen) the planes act like wicker chairs falling off the back of a truck; they sort of just slide and stumble around until they eventually stop. Even if you stall-spin from 15,000ft and don't recover.

To conclude I guess I would say that this game surprised me, I didn't expect to be able to have quite as much fun as I did with it. Even if I'm making the fun up myself in Free Flight, it's been a long time since a game has asked me to use my imagination, and leave me to it, rather than hold my hand through the entire, carefully orchestrated experience. I look forward to seeing what new content is released in the near future, and hope that it is enough to help generate some strong lasting appeal for what I think is a bold attempt, and a brave new angle at a genre that has been out of reach of so many people for so long.

Important Links

Official Microsoft Flight Release Video

Below is the official video from Microsoft for the release of Microsoft Flight.

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KevinWed, 29 Feb 2012 17:49:55 GMT

When is the XBOX 360 version coming out?

talloisWed, 29 Feb 2012 17:54:07 GMT

When will FS be available for Mac ?

Pro MemberAbd Al-Latif WhitingWed, 29 Feb 2012 18:18:16 GMT

I feel quite let down with this new approach, having bought most of the previous M$ Flight simulator titles.

It's not the on-line experience that's the problem, it's the childlike game approach to it.

With one island initially, that is also a major let down, and I suspect it will eventually cost 100's if not 1000's to build up an entire global experience (if indeed that ever happens).

What have a staff of fifty people been doing for the last five years?

I have the new X-Plane 10 as well, and if it had airport scenery, I would not bother with anything else.

I think that overall, I will be heading back to FSX, as I am sure the add-on market will still be keeping the FSX going, seeing as they are locked out of this version.

Oh well, I will see how this develops.

Johnj ElliottWed, 29 Feb 2012 19:13:18 GMT

Have been on every Flight Sim that Microsoft have ever produced since day one and always looked forward to the next version.

I have loaded 'Flight' and can do nothing but crash on the opening tutorial My CH controllers are not recognized, the keyboard presses operate intermittently. There is nothing intuitive about the whole approach and interface.

I don't get it, I really don't.

DijbeeWed, 29 Feb 2012 19:18:56 GMT

Mostly disappointed in Flight Sim. After the download, you're in a small planes flying around balloons. I wasn't able to find any instructions or alternative flight controls. The above article talks about the map screen and other "assignments" but where are they? I'm sure, if I stay with the game, I'll eventually find that stuff but typical MS to leave you hanging with no where to go.

magricioWed, 29 Feb 2012 19:39:56 GMT

After 16 years of buying Flight Simulators, this is the first time that the new one is smaller, lighter, poorer that the previous version.

I could forget all my add-ons and expansions for old FS, but i wonīt play with less airplanes, less scenery, less simulation.

timothyj67Wed, 29 Feb 2012 20:02:44 GMT

I too feel let down by MS.. I have been a avid flightsimmer for years, and I do like the NAV and SID and STARS..The live ATC (even if they do steer you in the wrong direction) . All of that, I feel like this is more of a arcade game then Simulation of flight..What sucks more is that there is no 3rd party addons..Thats what made flight sim so great!!! I cant even fathom how much it will cost to complete a whole world. Hopefully MS will come to their senses and release a complete version of Flight.

DaveWed, 29 Feb 2012 20:19:26 GMT

I aso feel let down after using FSX for sometime now and i find that Flight is four steps backwards, what a great disappointment.The realism is just not there with Flight like FSX has its more game orientated that realism.

Nick tolsonWed, 29 Feb 2012 20:34:21 GMT

Poor approach to a potentially great flight sim. They have managed not to appeal to anyone by adopting this gamer based sim. Flight simmers will hate it as it doesn't add anything to the fsx experience, in fact it retards it by some margin (especially in still no decent crashes!) and gamers will hate it because it not really a pure, gut wrenching, high energy, complex game that they look for.

Ultimately two words describe this game - EPIC FAIL.

I shall be sticking with FSX and this tedious game (i mean, one island, come on!) will crash and burn in the history books of how not to do a Flight Sim

Don LynchWed, 29 Feb 2012 20:42:53 GMT

I'm not even going to try it. I'll stick with FSX. Fly with a mouse. WTH.

Pro MemberflawlesspaulWed, 29 Feb 2012 21:34:59 GMT

I agree.. This new approach to flight sim has reduced it to a mere game. I actually used Microsoft FSX has a learning tool and am so enlightened by what I've learned. Even though MFSX is classified as a game, it is much more serious if you use it properly. I wanted Microsoft to take flight sim to the next level but it is clear that they can not mess with the best flight sim ever (MSFSX). Whenever I can afford to take real flying lessons I feel that I will understand what I'm learning as a result of FSX. I can not say that about the new Microsoft Flight "game". If you just want to play around, you may like the new product offering. I love how close I've come to learning the beauty of flying an airplane.. I never want to reduce it to just playing around. I am not saying this is a bad product, I'm saying you have to know what you want out of it before you buy it.

daveWed, 29 Feb 2012 22:44:40 GMT

oh stop your damn complaining. while you are entitled to your own opinion, so many people nowadays are expected to have everything RIGHT NOW...from fast food to oil changes. the fact is you CANT have everything whenever you want it!

Microsoft programmers have been working hard to bring us an updated version of flight sim and while we may have had to wait, understand there are many more projects for them to work on than just flying games over there.

IainWed, 29 Feb 2012 22:50:44 GMT

Great review. I have been playing flight sims for years too. One feature I would have liked to have seen in this new offering it to import your planes from FSX etc into the new game. I know it would ruin the business model, but I really cant see myself spending $8 on a single aircraft skin(that doesn't even include a cockpit). The Hawaii pack is $19.99 and depending on the amount of content that comes with it, even that seems step. FSX deluxe was $59.99 when I bought it may years back and provided many many hours of flying. Does the Hawaii pack provide a 1/3 of this with only one plane?

Philip HargravesWed, 29 Feb 2012 22:58:50 GMT

Very sad. Many steps backward from FSX. In other words its a video game not a sim. Yes that will appeal to more people but the simmers will be left high and dry. X-Plane will be the only sim left.

jrmartinWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:07:34 GMT

No airport or sky activity. Trees moving in the breeze is the only movement besides my aircraft. Where does the screen shot go when you take one? Will not let you log on to the other free stuff without a key. ???

jaimeWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:28:17 GMT

It looks like a Playstation game..that to bad....going back to x/p10

TomWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:30:49 GMT

My son and I are long time MS FS flyers. We Beta Tested MS Flight. It is game like and like another poster stated child like, not simulator like. Personally we will stick with MS FSX.

Todd BredaWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:36:22 GMT

I like that it's something new that MS has released but nothing compares to FSX with the right add-ons and payware. It's a fun little divergence but so far that's it. If it opens up the world (er, Island) of aviation to a whole new audience then great.

As for this student pilot and avid simmer...I'll leave the realistic experience to my FSX.

BarryWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:43:28 GMT

I've tried loading it and it won't. The support seems to send me round in circles, so I've given up. Back to FSX. What a shame!

meibionWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:54:19 GMT

Compared to FSX this is absolute rubbish.

elmerWed, 29 Feb 2012 23:54:22 GMT

I'm with Abd Al-Latif Whiting, it's pure garbage.

Pro MembergkoriskiThu, 01 Mar 2012 00:16:24 GMT

The things I'm missing in flight are some technical things like the ability to put some instruments on a secondary monitor, like GPS and the radio stack. I also discovered that my Saitek panels do not work nor the track IR4. the Saitek yoke and pedals operate well but it seems like the quadrant can use improved drivers, it doesn't feel as accurate. over all flight is cool, I hope they will release maps for the rest of the world soon, I do like flying with friends in different parts of the world, sometimes even long trans Atlantic flights. I hope this kind of flights will be possible and I hope having the complete elements of this Sim to do so will not cost like a trans Atlantic airline ticket.

Dale EvansThu, 01 Mar 2012 00:22:56 GMT

Flight Simmers are not just game players. They are builders and this GAME does not satisfy that need.

Pro MemberDr. Timothy D. MileyThu, 01 Mar 2012 02:08:50 GMT

Flight is a lot of fun and the graphics are good. I haven't used my controller yet and thanks for the review to teach me some things I did not know.

Ian HarrisonThu, 01 Mar 2012 03:02:00 GMT

Please check your spelling! Your instead of you're. Loose instead of lose. Those are what I saw when glancing through, there may be more.

John AllenThu, 01 Mar 2012 03:17:14 GMT

No thanks, I'm very happy with my old FS9 with all it's Commercial Aircraft, scenery downloaded and Airports, it does just fine!

T OliveThu, 01 Mar 2012 04:05:53 GMT

REALLY hoped for the best, especially seeing how X-Plane has stepped up the bar. Even after reading the so-so reviews, I kept an open mind. I finally installed it this evening and after about fifteen minutes uninstalled it. The first thing I noticed, getting past the difference in controls, was the scenery. Even though the graphics were not bad (still have seen better in other aerial games), it was embarrassingly apparent the terrain...Hawaii was FLAT!! How can a volcanic island be flat??? I finally gave up and uninstalled it. If After I did, I revved up FS9 (still haven't even gone to X) and headed to the same area as Flight. Ahhh...mountains! Yeah, FS9 has no graphics particles which Flight uses to create a more realistic environment, i.e., sunlight, shading, reflections, I STILL felt my eight year old sim did a way better job making me feel I was there. Granted, I do have add-on meshes and scenery, but I don't see that type of improvement happening with Flight when they still have a world to create and sell.

If my computer could handle X-Plane 10, it would definitely be my next purchase. In the meantime, FS9 still keeps trodding along!

Todd BredaThu, 01 Mar 2012 04:16:34 GMT

I like that it's something new that MS has released but nothing compares to FSX with the right add-ons and payware. It's a fun little divergence but so far that's it. If it opens up the world (er, Island) of aviation to a whole new audience then great.

As for this student pilot and avid simmer...I'll leave the realistic experience to my FSX.

JoeThu, 01 Mar 2012 04:33:02 GMT

I downloaded the program and toyed around with it for a little bit. Liked the graphics and the sound, but was disappointed that the only venue available was Hawaii. I was looking forward to a much improved version of a simulator similar to FSX. All MS has done with this simulator, is to make those of us who are still flying FS9 and FSX hold onto them and just keep chugging along. It will b very expensive to bring the sim up to the level of the previous ones, if it can be done. For me, I've uninstalled it and it's back to flying FS9.

tashasThu, 01 Mar 2012 05:00:48 GMT

What the???

I don't want to play silly games, I want to fly!

Justin MarleyThu, 01 Mar 2012 06:18:55 GMT

Would love to give my two cents but it tells me my 5770 isn't supported due to too few shaders, even though it has them.

Pro Memberc_prowseThu, 01 Mar 2012 07:59:08 GMT

FSX with ORBX scenery and a host of payware aircraft from A2A, Carenado and Aerosoft is where I will stay. I was hoping for Microsoft to step up, but they didn't... Thank God small developers have done what Microsoft is not capable of. Pretty sad really.

Hugh D. ChapmanThu, 01 Mar 2012 08:33:51 GMT

Can you use a joystick (yoke) in the sim? I have noticed all of the reviews talk about using the mouse to fly. That's just not my style. If I cannot use a joystick (yoke) then I am not interested. It takes the fun and learning aspect out of the game if you have to fly with a mouse. I fly sims to get a feeling of how flying an aircraft will be. Also, will there be helicopters available to fly in the future? It would be a great addition. Thanks

Freddielaker2Thu, 01 Mar 2012 08:41:34 GMT

I was on it for 20 minutes last night, at the end I was looking where I should put my 20c/10p in the slot. Most of us are purists when it comes to FS, This is for the Xbox generation. Nothing wrong with that at all dont get me wrong, but for me its like a video game in an arcade, not something you can sit down and plan a flight and work out fuel/weight etc and really get into it. Not for me I'm afraid. I will be removing it.

Stuart WatersThu, 01 Mar 2012 09:06:26 GMT

Now if they had the gameplay of FSX and the scenery of FS then we'd be getting somewhere! I quite agree with Mr Whiting about his comment "It's not the on-line experience that's the problem, it's the childlike game approach to it".

Geir KildalThu, 01 Mar 2012 09:19:16 GMT

Please!!...Is this supposed to be the follower to FSX? This is not a "Flight Simulator"..... This is only a players game!!!.... I expected a lot more from you guys. I'm sorry.... as others tells you, I will stick to the previous simulators or may be the X-plane. You know, I like to fly in Norway and area around here.....

rafman925Thu, 01 Mar 2012 12:19:12 GMT

It's wonderful (no not the download) what you can do with a good producer. I'm sorry Microsoft this is a dud, I can understand why you gave it away, back to the drawing board and quick about it if you want to retain Flight Sim Customers.

tashasThu, 01 Mar 2012 12:35:37 GMT

What the???

I don't want to play silly games, I want to fly!

MaxThu, 01 Mar 2012 13:55:03 GMT

'Lose' not LOOSE. And this is a GAME not a SIM. FS2004 and FSX propheads will be sorely disappointed.

Doug VukovicThu, 01 Mar 2012 14:01:00 GMT

Flight Simulator user for 8 Yr. Now FSX and all goodies PC. Extremely disappointed. At 65 and retired. Like fling learning, challenge in the cockpit ( instruments, flight dynamics etc....> A) DO NOT LIKE TO GIVE TO MUCH INFO> B) IF YOU RELEASE "DEMO" LET IT BE COMPLETE> C) SO FAR IS THE INFO GRAB????? I DELETED DOWNLOAD. NO POINT Lets get this " project" competed and then will see! What have the Team spend 5 Years on:?//????

cmThu, 01 Mar 2012 14:25:41 GMT

No wonder it's free. Total garbage.... what have these people been doing for 5 years? Sack the lot!! Integrate aspects of X-Plane 10, FSX and REX studios and we may well have a sim worthy too fly... back to the old faithful it looks like.

Pro MemberflawlesspaulThu, 01 Mar 2012 17:33:37 GMT

Well Dave, here you have it.. The general consensus is that it is more game like. No one really is complaininig.. Some people like "simming" and some people like "playing". Why you had to use a cuss word and feel like you had to patronize the developers is a display of your own insecurities and misunderstanding of what long time "Flight-Simmers" were expecting. You do not have to comment further if you don't take the time to understand what's going on here. Peace be with you my friend.

BillThu, 01 Mar 2012 17:46:37 GMT

I lasted ten minuets before I was in control panel clicking remove program.

The preview videos didn't reflect the released game at all flying was boring and required zero thought.

I'm glad it was free because had I had to pay more then 50p for this I would have been really angry.

as far as being a sim goes IT ISNT, it lacks any 'involvement' with the world around you, the nearest comparison I can come up with is its like taking any good shoot em up and removing all the enemies, i.e pointless

jonas3ltThu, 01 Mar 2012 18:20:31 GMT

I'm disappointed. I started FS2002, later FS2004 & now FSX. I tried it ... Maybe it's joke?

99th ObsidianThu, 01 Mar 2012 20:12:57 GMT

There is a reason that MS dropped the word "SIMULATION" from the name of this product. While it does allow you to pilot an aircraft I would not say this is a simulator based upon my experience with previous MS products. I too went back and flew the same area in FSX and found it superior in every category (Graphics, Sound, flight control and Track IR support, AI, missions, Multiplayer, plane variety (except for the Icon A5), and GUI. Sorry MS but this Flight is going to crash and burn.

Pro MemberherbgloThu, 01 Mar 2012 22:17:34 GMT

Being a pilot for 63 years, I do not remember one plane that I flew that you controlled with a mouse and keyboard. Shame shame MS.

jrmartinFri, 02 Mar 2012 00:42:53 GMT

I have purchased the Hawaii pack and here is a review from an advid flight simmer and designer "jimmy R martin"

Overall graphics and terrain are great. Shoreline waves are stationary. Nightime lighting sucks just like in the default FSX. No moving traffic. No moving boats, when you can find them. No static aircraft at the airports. Landclass looks very nice. Autogen very nice...good variation in structures. Aircraft very nice. Shadowing and reflections very realistic. No real world weather. No flight planning or anything like in Flight Simulator. - jump in and fly. Terrain mesh equals FS Genesis addon for FSX. STILL: As Microsoft has stated...this is NOT a flight simulator but a game for folks to enjoy. You go online to open up and play. Once you set up your account you can instanty buy more aircraft and scenery. Hawaii is $20 with tax. This could get very expensive.

BradFri, 02 Mar 2012 02:35:30 GMT

Don't waste your download... The commodore 64 flight sim 20 years ago was better flight model, graphics good but itís supposed to be a flight sim, not a scenery sim. Canít do half the tuning on the flight yokes etc

Very very bad MSÖ go back to the drawing board! Iíll stay with FSX

derek_ecFri, 02 Mar 2012 02:41:02 GMT

What a disappointment tho no surprise. Sims are inherently boring to non aviation enthusiasts. They'll treat this as a welcome curiosity then eventually leave it go. But real world pilots use it as a training/proficiency tool and need realism. Non-pilot enthusiasts are smart enough to appreciate realism. Microsoft just lost this entire sector.

Steve CrescoFri, 02 Mar 2012 13:48:35 GMT

Very disappointing to say the least. We all knew it had to end someday, that day has arrived. Just make sure you take care of your FS2004 & FSX discs. We've had a good sixteen year run with the simulators, just try to enjoy what we still have in the sim community. Look at it this way, it leaves the door open for other developers to start something new and maybe even better down the road. Better days ahead for us build enthusiasts. Sorry to see it end though!

VladFri, 02 Mar 2012 14:01:22 GMT

I was very excited when I downloaded and installed Flight. Ive been flight simming since FS98 through FSX and figured this release would be a step up from the rest. While the graphics are well done and the visual effects are quite stunning, the simulation doest appear to be found anywhere in this game. I do make the distinction with this release of Flight to be a game- not a simulation at all. I was also very disappointed to find very limited scenery and aircraft. I was looking forward to the entire world being a part of this release as it has been in every single Microsoft Flight Simulator- Sadly I was let down there too. Hawaii seems to be the only place available to fly at the moment. All in all, unless this is simply a pre-release showcase of a future finished version of Flight, this is a waste of time if you're looking for what you're used to in previous versions.

Mario Ellena ZainaFri, 02 Mar 2012 21:42:50 GMT

Che schifo... Rubbish. Can I have anything like 747-400x PMG queen of the sky and take it up to the sky?

My flight sim on the Atari ST was much better

Randall FryfogleFri, 02 Mar 2012 21:51:36 GMT

The Microsoft Flight is really tragic. The dollars and time spent on development should have produced an advanced FSX that most simmers would have gladly paid to see. The hype does not fit the product. It seems that with every new plane or scenery the developer has their hand out for cash. I would urge Microsoft to abandon this product and continue support and development of FSX. I have already uninstalled Microsoft Flight. Usually when a new flight simulator enters the market I call all of the simmers to let them share in the excitement. Sadly with this new program that was not the case.

Pro MemberMarcoFri, 02 Mar 2012 23:07:35 GMT

Very disappointing... I would like to hear them saying "ok we have joked, now we mean it", but I know it is just so: a definitive rubbish.

Ed FentonSat, 03 Mar 2012 01:52:11 GMT

I'll pass!

KennethSat, 03 Mar 2012 02:30:43 GMT

After reading the reviews and real sim pilot's reactions I have decided I am not going to bother. I will stick with FSX until those guys that helped make FSX what it is switch over to X-plane 10. Funny how they went the wrong direction. Instead of taking care of those that made FSX what it is they decided to back those that have an attention span of a duck.

Back to FSXSat, 03 Mar 2012 07:45:47 GMT

I can't believe this got the approval for release by Microsoft! Very disappointing.

Now I understand why they called it "Microsoft Flight" and not "Microsoft Flight Simulator"!

paulSat, 03 Mar 2012 17:32:10 GMT

Feels like some corporate strategy manager at Microsoft played Test Drive Unlimited 2 and decided that TDU should take to the skies. If that's the case, he has done well, otherwise its a failure..FSX was about big, grand, the whole, the absolute and the magnificent - that was the vision...This was lost...Prepar3d and X-Plane is the way to go!

JohnSat, 03 Mar 2012 17:53:29 GMT

Very disappointed! Bought every flight sim by MS since 1983. Will not buy this one! Avid simmer and also a retired 747 Airline Pilot. So much hype over an arcade game? Now im going to buy X-plane 10. Is this the best Microsoft can do? Find it very hard to believe they would have the nerve to sell this arcade game as "Flight" Sophisticated controllers, such as Saitek X52 and Logitech G940 don't work with the sim. Just the cheap CVH flightstick. VERY DISAPPOINTED!!!!!!!!

ChuckSat, 03 Mar 2012 22:50:47 GMT

A lot of griping for what? If you don't like Flight, try delete, your not out anything. Personally, I like it. The game picked up my Logitech throttle, pedals and joystick during installation and mapping is a snap. I would rather have Hawaii detailed than the entire globe in sparse generalities.

Over the HillSun, 04 Mar 2012 00:20:24 GMT

After reading all the posts, I was saved the trouble of downloading Flight at all. I only have FS2002, but even using that I've had more realistic aircraft response with DOS Red Baron, and even with a pre-GUI version, which had no graphics at all! I admit my computer chip probably isn't fast enough, but thanks for saving me the bother of trying Flight.

Tom24Sun, 04 Mar 2012 11:43:55 GMT

What a Total pile of Garbage! - Running on Max settings - Graphics still look very poor indeed

Deleting and spending money on further enhancing FSX which already looks better on my system than Flight does

Flatly refuse to spend a penny/cent/euro/dollar or dime on Flight

jontySun, 04 Mar 2012 16:09:22 GMT

I am away on holiday so can't download onto my own computer, but after reading all the comments my worst fears are confirmed, its just a silly game no wonder it is free. Will stick with FSX and look at X Plane seriously now. 'MS Flight' what a flop !

ChuckSun, 04 Mar 2012 20:26:57 GMT

Hey Chuck, if you don't like reading others peoples negative comments on a comment board just go away, M'kay? People have the right to complain just as you have the right to praise it. Not everyone shares your opinion. Get over yourself already.

As are most people here, I'm not too excited about this. Flying around balloons isn't my idea of a flight sim. Having this as an OPTION for newcomers is welcome, but being a real pilot and an avid simmer since the old Sublogic days, disappointed is an understatement.

And just a note to the grammar Nazi's. Head on over to Wikipedia and do some editing if your only input here is there, their, your, and you're corrections.

johnSun, 04 Mar 2012 20:30:30 GMT

This is Terrible ! Money making machine for the greed of Ms !! They completely ruined the Flight simulator - and put into commerce a money making machine ! of very poor taste and quality. Bring Back our Simulator or get out of the way!

LewMon, 05 Mar 2012 00:38:42 GMT

Seems OK and has potential. but this pricing is just nuts. It seems to work out at 20 USD per aircraft but less for scenery.

Having played previous flight sims I know exactly where I want to fly and what aircraft I want but their pricing structure seems like I will be paying a weeks wages for the privilege, so I think I'll just get bored of the free content and uninstall.

Also Microsoft say they want to know what you think, but don't have even a forum!

AndrewMon, 05 Mar 2012 10:12:57 GMT

Flight is a nice fun toy to play with for a while but does anybody at Microsoft realize they have already developed FSX? I don't understand why they couldn't have just added missions to buy, caches etc to FSX.

johnnyMon, 05 Mar 2012 17:44:03 GMT

MS Flight is obviously targeting the wider market - kids.

The moment I step into MS Flight I realized its a kids game. Not for the adults.

And its going to cost a lot of $$$$ in order to get it fully functional. Definitely not for me, I think ill just give up flying and try something more down to earth.

A G GelbertMon, 05 Mar 2012 20:57:07 GMT

Microsoft flight GAME (it IS a game, not a flight simulator) has a bug that knocks out the keyboard. I believe it probably has to do with processor speed ( I'm at the minimum 2.0 ghz) but I'm not sure.

The Icon5 is a rather silly aircraft with an automobile "cockpit". I am a licensed pilot and have flown many light aircraft (Cherokees, Cessna 150, 152, 172, and I even checked out in a tail dragger D18 - twin Beechcraft during multi-engine training). I am also a retired air traffic controller. The Icon A5 has no artificial horizon or even a turn and bank indicator. Needle, ball and airspeed is the most basic flying there is. The FAA would never let this car/airplane off the ground. Also the drag from the gear being down is overdone by about 50%. I have flown high drag/high lift ultralights (Quicksilver) and they have less drag than this Icon A5 which appears to be quite a streamlined aircraft. Another telling non-feature about this carplane is that it has no flaps. I once owned a piper colt. That 108 horsepower dog did not have flaps but didn't really need them because it had the glide path of a rock. After the colt, piper put more power on their aircraft and flaps as well. The Icon A5 is a step backwards in simulation.

I haven't flown the Stearman but that aircraft (the real one) has a tremendous amount of engine torque which is quite challenging in a takeoff because if you apply power to quickly, you don't have enough tail to avoid a ground loop. Also the p-factor from the large propeller requires a quick reduction in the use of right rudder as you rotate for takeoff and the quick reapplying of right rudder as you begin climb out. Finally, reducing power in flight requires lots of left rudder on this aircraft in order to keep it coordinated during a glide. I don't believe this realism is there in this game. There is a reason why aircraft manufacturers went to tricycle gear. The Stearman is a difficult aircraft to fly (more so than the twin beechcraft tail dragger I flew) so don't get the idea that this game version of the Stearman is anything like the real thing or you might get yourself killed.

On the plus side, the scenery is fantastic (it's great fun to fly between trees) and the realism of the ocean is a pleasure to behold. So if you have the ram and the processor speed to set all the graphics on high, you can enjoy the scenery and some excellent weather effects.

JohnMon, 05 Mar 2012 23:17:35 GMT

Love the starter plane. The scenery seems way smother too. Hope its not gonna cost a fortune to fly in the rest of the world though.

WilliamTue, 06 Mar 2012 02:13:07 GMT

Picture the scene its the MS development office 2 months before the release of MS Flight.

Boss "Great work guys those plane models look great, Hows the game elements going." keyboard monkey 1 "john was working on that" Boss "john.....john..,dammit where is that guy" Keyboard monkey 2 "errrr john left 4 yrs ago" Boss "so whos doing the game elements and scereny and stuff." KM1 "errrrrrrrr" KM2 "errrrrrrrr" Boss "ok dont panick look at johns terminal whats he done so far" KM1 "he done hawaii" Boss "S***, ok here what we'll do, release the game with hawaii and tell everyone that they have to pay for the rest of the world piece by piece as downloads that will give us at least a year to actually write the game....they get the game and we make 10 times what we would have releasing the full game in February......." KM2 "but we're rubbish at game content" Boss "dont worry about it those idiots will buy anything"

fast forward 1 yr and Boss KM1 and KM2 are seen sat on the kerb holding up will work for food signs

Derek SandersTue, 06 Mar 2012 17:02:41 GMT

I also downloaded MS Flight and tried it out for a couple of hours. Then uninstalled it! It is complete junk! Does'nt even come close to either FS9 or FSX, Ok, so the scenery is just a little bit better but thats it. Gameplay is poor, the sound is poor, the cockpit detail is poor etc, etc! And if you want to fly anywhere other than one of the Hawaiian Islands you cant....unless you are prepared to download and pay for extra scenery! Come on MS Game Studios...get rid of this junk and get back to doing what you do best and develop a new MS Flightsim that's as good as the originals. Because MS Flight surely isn't.

DwtexWed, 07 Mar 2012 02:00:10 GMT

I downloaded this "game" and spent two days learning and playing it. In the end, I have come to this conclusion, it is an unfinished work. To bring a sense of completeness to this game, microsoft should have included Sponge Bob Squarepants and Teletubby motifs to all the planes. Perhaps they could have included these characters as selectable pilots and we could all fly around listening to "I love you, you love me...." playing in the background. Just goes to show how far off the deep end a company can really go if they put their mind to it.

Pro MembercrackerjacksWed, 07 Mar 2012 20:08:20 GMT

Here is my review. There is just to much wrong with this game to list. I have used MS Flight Sim since it first came out. Flight is a far reach from MS Flight Simulator. If MS plans to expand on what it currently is that would be great, but until then I am sticking with FS X. What they currently have is a "free for all" flight situation. No rules, No ATC, just pure kaos. It's hard for me to believe that MS would waste money on a platform like this without planning on expanding it.

Conclusion. Don't pay MS a dime for anything in this game until they offer something that's worth it.

The really sad part is I do not see anywhere for MS to receive feedback from the users. Once again, MS does what it wants without listening to the consumers or potential customers.

Shame on you Microsoft, shame shame.

Ronan MallonWed, 07 Mar 2012 22:12:17 GMT

It's a real Lemon. The people at Laminar who make X-Plane must be ecstatic with joy. Ps. Has anyone downloaded Windows 8 Preview? It's a Lemon too!

SimmerSkyThu, 08 Mar 2012 20:05:45 GMT

Being a Virtual Airline pilot with hundreds of hours on FS9 and FSX, I was so let down when I heard the direction MS was going with this. But I kept the faith. I joined the MS Flight Beta team. I truly jumped in, and gave it the ole college try. I downloaded the retail release, claimed my free Maul and P51 for being in the Beta, and took to the skies. For a whole 20 minutes before I closed the game in disgust and removed it from my hard drive.

What really gets me is that Microsoft gave absolutely no thought to their simmer base. Those that keep FSX going long after it should have been a dead game. The vast majority of people that will give a flight sim more than 10 hours of their time, are going to be hard core simmers that try to 'simulate' actual commercial aviation. Virtual Airlines for nearly every major, regional and even minor airlines are out there. It is a thriving community with thousands of people spending tens of thousands of hours weekly flying Boeing, Airbus, Canadair, Embraer jets because they actually do like flying the plane, not just soaring in the clouds.

Some people are saying 'quit whining, give it time'. But given how many years it took them to put this together, and they probably decided it was too much work to do it correctly so they took a shortcut to appeal to 10 year olds. They will soon find out that since these planes do not have weapons etc., that it's not even a GOOD arcade game.

I'm just sick about it. FSX needs a major overhaul, and X-Plane just isn't a viable alternative if you value the time you spend on the ground at airports just as much as you do your time in the air. Not to mention they had to have purposely made X-Plane more difficult to get around and just experience the sim. Their view controls are completely jacked.

All in all, I too will be sticking with FSX and continue to fly for a Virtual Airline, with my 10+ addon's to increase realism etc.

Good luck with this 'Leisure Suit Larry' of the flight sim world, Microsoft. Since you didn't care to listen to us, your actual fan base, you will reap what you will sow.

StratoArtThu, 08 Mar 2012 20:37:24 GMT

@AG Gilbert, you said "The FAA would never let this car/airplane off the ground"

They already achieved FAA milestones: http://www.tehachapinews.com/news/local/x1498654722/ICON-Aircraft-A5-achieves-FAA-milestone

http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/02/icon-aircraft-receives-first-ever-spin-resistant-seal-of-approval/

welcome to the future of flying.

StratoArtThu, 08 Mar 2012 20:54:46 GMT

A lot of people here obviously haven't tried out Flight. The graphics are so much better than FSX and previous. There is VOR/NAV with the RV-6. Icon is using GPS. Whoever says that the scenery is just "a little better" hasn't bothered to tell you the whole story. The scenery is way better than FSX or X-plane 10 (which is lousy scenery). ATC is done through multiplayer where people can talk on specific radio channels (just like real life). No there is no unrealistic robotic ATC. If people wanted to set themselves up as a tower and communicate on their hosted game, they can. FSX and previous are horrid with multiplay. Uncheck the easy settings for realistic flight handling. It seems as though people just bash this product, and don't seem to have gone past getting the plane out and really looking through it. You can even get out of your plane and walk around. The only way you can do that with FSX is to get a clumsy 3rd party add-on that is very quirky. Regarding paying for extra scenery - tons of hardcore simmers do that already with 3rd party software. So why harp on this? I've paid for REX2, as well as MegaScenery packs and a lot of payware aircraft. Sound is so much better than FSX. Unless, again, you have a ton of add-ons, which is probably what people are basing their critique on - the fact that they have bought hundreds of add-ons to FS9 and FSX to get it where they want it. You have to compare the base product to the base product without add-ons. Compare the base FSX with it's default sounds and scenery and aircraft to Flight - and Flight knocks FSX over. Again, ATC is via multiplayers, so get going there and start using ATC for real with real people instead of getting bad vectors from pre-scripted robotic recordings as in FSX and previous. I see Flight as an open door to keep Flight Simulation alive - it was nearly dead only played with by the hardcore sim community - a VERY TINY NICHE MARKET compared to the rest of the gaming world. Now Flight is going to be opened up to that vast gaming world. Regarding the graphics - the cockpits are excellent! There is even shadowing and sunlight play that moves across the cockpit. The Icon isn't my favorite aircraft, I've never been a seaplane fan. But I love the RV-6 and Stearman and will be getting the Maule soon. It is getting rather old to have people ditch Flight when they've barely touched it.

Ronan MallonSat, 10 Mar 2012 23:01:42 GMT

As a parent who has to buy all the software for a multi-console household, I am amazed at the speed games are played and discarded. However, proper flight sims last for years. This thing is crap and the people who post positive remarks are probably MS Flight employees. This is not a flight sim because it is a console game and will bore the crap out of all in weeks. WE WANT TO FLY EVERY WHERE!

JoshSun, 11 Mar 2012 07:46:55 GMT

This game is not going to be released on XBOX360 or Mac. It is a windows exclusive game. In other words it's only for PC.

bpsanbornSun, 11 Mar 2012 16:01:15 GMT

Wow... what a negative rant we have going here.

You should really give MS Flight another look. Like many of you, I have been flight simming since the very first MS flight sim package and still have FSX running and use it often. I also fly X-Plane10 and aeroflyFS. I was a MS Flight Beta tester and now I am many hours in on the final release version. There is so much misinformation in the comments so far.

1. Starting to fly without reading the MS Flight Handbook puts you a huge disadvantage. It is available at http://microsoftflight.com/en-us/handbook/

2. Flight supports most of the joysticks, yokes and pedals that we all use. I flew with mouse for only a few minutes... then switched to my CH CombatStick 568. It supports my CH pedals and Saitek yoke. On the "Options Screen" you can map all your buttons to the functions you use to having on your controls.

3. You should buy the Hawaii Adventure Pack before forming an opinion. It is not only the rest of the islands but also includes a really nice RV6 that is very real and fun to fly.

4. You should try the Missions, Challenges and Aerocache Hunts using a joystick or yoke before you go away disappointed. MS Flight can be a very entertaining flying experience while you are hunting for a aerocache and then have to fly some very fancy aerobatics to fly close enough to the token to capture the points.

4. I admit that MS Flight is not a FSX 2.0. It is different. The flight physics and scenery are excellent. But all the details of FSX, such as ATC and flight planner, are not there. However, with the $20 Hawaiian Adventure Pack download, it is a fun alternative to FSX and X-Plane10 when you are in the mode for flying and fun. When did you ever get a great fun flying game for $20.

Ms Flight has a future. They have already announced an Alaska region download. It will evolve to follow the user community that it develops. I am still logged into the MS Flight beta tester's forum with the development team and we are are as tough as you on wanting more real simulation details in the program. So... don't write this package off too soon. I for one have found it very impressive from a technical point of view and lot's of fun to fly.

Brian Groton, MA USA

Pro MemberPaulMon, 12 Mar 2012 09:49:02 GMT

The new Microsoft Flight? I can think of only two words to describe it...It blows!!!

Brian HoltTue, 13 Mar 2012 15:17:38 GMT

I downloaded MS Flight yesterday, mapped my Saitek X52 to the controls and flew around in both the Icon and Stearman. Did I have fun....YES. I think the quick flights and challenges are a good idea if you have limited time to play. Scenery is heads above my FSX game. Avatars are more realistic, my copilot is a sweetheart. lol The game is free to start which should bring in a lot of novice pilots, but I think they will bore very quickly unless MS ups the ante with more addons. I for one will be very disappointed with this game unless more aircraft are added. In FSX I can fly all the old time heavies I have loved since I was a child (Constellation, Martin Mars, Lancaster, Avro Arrow, etc) MS should let the third party builders in on the action or they will lose fan base very quickly. Yes I do like to plan my flights from time to time, but overall I like to be sent on missions of rescue, pilot for hire,etc. MS Flight is a good base, but they best expand for quickly. I was going to talk about MS charging for every little addon, but when I stop to think about it, I have spent quite a bit in FSX already. Time will tell if MS Flight survives, but in the meantime I will stick with both FSX and MS Flight and may the best system win.

Brian Holt Denman Island, BC

billTue, 13 Mar 2012 21:10:51 GMT

What people don't seem to have realized yet is the big marketing scam that MS has undertaken.This game was hailed as being free to play to pull in people who expected more but all you get for free is what you get with a lot of games a demo nothing more, I really cant wait for Alaska to be released as this will put a lot more people off this game when they find out that you will probably 'warp' from Hawaii to Alaska or have to load up one or the other each time you play not to mention they will probably never expand outside the US why should they when thats 50 add-ons right there even if they release one a month thats nearly two years money grabbing.

A G GelbertFri, 16 Mar 2012 03:20:49 GMT

StratoArt, Point taken. I read the articles you pointed me to. However, they don't say the instrument package is devoid of the "standard six" or has vitually no way to determine your pitch attitude or bank angle (no turn and bank or artificial horizon) beyond using outside cockpit references. I'm CERTAIN the aircraft used in the test did not have the Microsoft Flight Icon A5 instrument un-package. As to the future of flight being equivalent to spin resitant aircraft, all I can say is that way back in the 50's (I know I'm dating myself here) they said the very same thing about the aircoup (It was a VERY spin resistant aircraft). But, alas, the claim that it couldn't spin was undermined when a couple of deadly crashes from spins happened. As an old flight instructor I can tell you that the stats on spins are muddled; yes the spin causes the crash but PRIOR to the spin (and many times not resulting in a spin but still a deadly crash) is the tendency of pilots near the ground to skid around turns because they do not want to bank in a coordinated fashion. It's probably an irrational psychological fear of the low wing hitting the earth so they use too much rudder, the inside wing stalls and drops, the aircraft rolls towards the earth and the pilot makes the terrible error of pulling the nose up instead of allowing it to descend while stopping the turn (you can do this in even a hundred feet or more). When back pressure is applied to the elevator, the inside wing stall is exacerbated (increase in angle of attack and decreased airspeed) and the aircraft enters a spin. Beyond severe weather, cross control errors while flying near the ground are the main cause of crashes. I'm sure that if the Icon A5 is symptomatic of the future of general aviation, it is because of it's sea/land versatility at an acceptable price. Over forty years ago they made an aircraft like it called the lake buccaneer but it was too expensive.

If you work for Microsoft, tell them to adjust he drag on the gear to about half what it is. It's not realistic. The X-plane aircraft modeling software was actually used to model the virgin air space plane and I'm sure Microsoft could afford it so just put an Icon A5 in it and run the numbers and you'll see what I mean about the excessive gear drag. Or you could put the $400 RC Icon A5 in a wind tunnel and you would have physical, rather than math model proof of a bug in the Microsoft simulation algorithm for the Icon A5 (and don't get me started on the Stearman or the P-51 death traps).

DocMoriartyFri, 23 Mar 2012 16:56:37 GMT

I tested it and flew a mission after the tutorials and i'm disappointed to the max. When i bought FSX i got a full game for 50 bucks or so where i could fly to 25K worth of airports around the world and now i'm supposed to pay major bucks for tiny improvements ?????? Are you kidding me??? This is the worst catastrophe the flight sim community has ever seen and nothing but another money printing machine for Microsoft. If they would have done something like NFSW ... with a complete world and real online experience ... ok ... but this is ... NOTHING. Don't bother with it and don't let M$$$$$$ fool you.

Gary LTue, 27 Mar 2012 20:44:42 GMT

I don't know if I'm dissapointed in the game, never got to play it. I downloaded it 3 times, it took one and a half hours each time, it failed every time,so I gave up.

Andy721874Tue, 03 Apr 2012 07:34:09 GMT

Seems to me that everyone wants to try something new and expect it to be perfect when they were so used to x-plane and fsx. If you don't like it play the 10 other flight simulators you have installed on your Hard Drive. Christ on his throne people these days.

They'll eventually get it. Also Flight will eventually finish.

GooseWed, 11 Apr 2012 22:07:19 GMT

Yea, Flight will eventually finish, in the garbage bag or somewhere on my ssd where I never look in, where my original Combat Simulator is. Unless they start cranking out those States and the rest of the World, and all sorts of airplanes with panels and guns so I can take out that beat-up Zero and stop annoying the people of Hawaii. Also, we need real weather, navigation capability, autopilots, 2D panels, etc. Hey we got money and huge drives, so get going MS. The airplanes are nicely modeled. Terrain is real and true with cracks and potholes. Flight has (MS take notice, are you guys reading these?) a fantastic potential, but Hawaii, Alaska, and few other areas of the World, and few dozen airplanes won't do it.

Pro Membertom92819630Sun, 15 Apr 2012 16:45:59 GMT

Microsoft is getting like the Goverment they don't listen to the people. Me personally I would like to see a formation type simulator like the Military teams. I love FSX I have so many addon aircraft it is a treat when you are disabled and it takes you to a different world.

AlessioMon, 16 Apr 2012 13:55:43 GMT

I like "Flight" very much: it is enjoyable, and it gives the feel of flight like no simulation before. I pretty much agree with everything in the review: I am a fan of flight sims, I am 42, and I played any FS since Sublogic Flight Simulator on the Commodore 64: I just love this "MS Flight". But audience must understand that Flight is not just a "package": it is a program. New content will be added on the way, and the simulation will take the spin as the player community grow.

jds0105Tue, 01 May 2012 15:24:35 GMT

FAIL = F = waste of time and money I'm curious why they asked for feedback when they were making the game if they had no intentions of listening to it. I commented that they had better not "dumb" this program down too much or it would appeal to nobody; and as all the previous reviews state, that is exactly what they did. Are the graphics great? Sure. Is the sound good? Absolutely. But that is where it ends. This is now a "game". Before when I had friends or family over we would "fly" the simulator for MSFSX and it made it much easier to explain that it wasn't really a game but more a simulator. I actually learned the basics on several MSFS products then tuned them on X and then went and got my pilots license. I was bored after 10 minutes on this new game and hope that maybe in the future they will actually listen to the base fans who will be willing to pay for something if you give them what they want instead of trying to appeal to a larger audience that could care less about this sorry attempt. I just hope all the guys who got laid off from MS after MSFSX and started there own company can actually get the money together to release there own version of what should be MSFS XI.

Christopher GSat, 05 May 2012 17:41:27 GMT

I love the fact that the MS flight web admins have disabled ALL comments on their updates. I would say the only cause would be the overwhelming negative feedback they were receiving. I believe that most of the negatives could have been toned down had their been any contact from the development team. Instead of answering questions they shut down ALL contact. I see this being the Nail in the coffin for MS Flight. N.Korea stopped talking to the rest of the world too. You see how far that got them.

VincentFri, 11 May 2012 12:03:39 GMT

This message is to the Microsoft Developers. Microsoft Flight has point on Graphics, but no realistic crash dynamics. I mean, let's have the airplane break apart, burn, etc., just like the real thing. Let's have, if the airplane crashes into buildings, roads, etc., you would get the buildings exploding, breaking, roads burning, and or damaged. Cmon, Microsoft Developers, why are you holding back? It's just a game. And why not have a full version we can buy at the stores, just like the other previous versions before this one. With all the world included in it, and multiple airplanes, as well as making the game accessible to additional compatible content from flight sim enthusiasts.

Come on Microsoft Developers, let's get it together. This current game is not going very well. It looks like some child's toy, with only the scenery looking realistic, but not able to destroy to some extent.

You might be concerned with the politics of the world, how the critics will complain about how realistic the game is if you were to include what I have written here. But I can understand that. But let the critics complain. We need a realistic flight sim game. I think it would had been better had you modified Flight Simulator X with all the realistic scenery you included with this Microsoft flight.

KKMon, 14 May 2012 08:42:39 GMT

A lot of bad reviews here. I think I'd just stay with the old FSX and spend money on the FSX add-on. For flight simulation, I prefer realistic, not a *game* for kids.

xanuserMon, 21 May 2012 15:48:54 GMT

@ the author. In the fall and winter in Hawaii the trees dont change color and dont lose their leaves! -Doh!

While the game play is solid, I miss the full experience of FSX. The need for internet to access the full game is lame. For my kid and I to play this game, and keep our own game stats, requires we buy the upgrade packs individually, and each have our own live account. It would be nice to have a few users available for a family to each have their own profile without each having separate live accounts. Need to be able to skip tutorials if you want. I have no clue how you are supposed to get the last free aerocache. How can you get to 25,000 ft in the two free planes that top out at 14,000? Cant set the desired altitude in free fly. Also miss the ability to fly anywhere in the world from one simple DVD purchase like you could for FSX. Also missing is the ability to create your own aircraft for other to use and download.

The more I think about it the less I like it....

Pro MemberRonald R. RubinThu, 24 May 2012 14:03:02 GMT

I have only been into FSX and all it has to offer for a few months, and I asked several dealers how to get started and was told to buy MS Gold, which I did, and I'm happy with it, It will be a while before I try something else, as I have invested a lot into this system. I must say I am well pleased with FSX Gold, I wasn't led astray, all was what I was told. I havent learned to land or find the airport yet, but its the thrill of flight! and so many like to call it a game, I feel its far above a game, expensive But worth it.

JDThu, 24 May 2012 15:52:11 GMT

What a total let down. I have been with Microsoft Flight Simulator since 1986 and have gone through all the version upgrades and have spent thousands on program disk and add ons. This has been a big mistake by MS to their loyal FS simmers, i for one will rather stick to FSX or X-Plane than wasting any further time with this.

Peter77jThu, 24 May 2012 20:16:25 GMT

Fantastic! I love it. I love the global feel and that I no longer have to buy and update a copy to subsequent versions. The look and feel is really good even on my old PC, even though the program keeps telling me it's not good enough every time I load it... but it works really well. I can see this going far.

Pro MemberJames CharlesSat, 26 May 2012 01:34:14 GMT

So I agree with most; the new MS Flight is more of a game rather a simulator. Besides I'm still satisfied with FSX. There is still alot of potentail now that our computer are gettting faster and better, and limitless scenery developers and freeware being created everyday.

KOREA7Mon, 28 May 2012 02:20:50 GMT

Very disappointing! Not able to use FSX features, planes, scenery, and other add-ons.. All well guess itís time to FLY-AWAY.

Bill MorganMon, 28 May 2012 16:49:26 GMT

Flight sucks and is another huge let down. Especially after such a long wait. It is just another disappointment like so many of late from Microsoft. It Is just more greed ware from a company that has become a blotted dinosaur very much like IBM was in the seventies. I have bought every flight sim since sub-logic started and MS took over. But I have had it. I lay this at the feet of Balmer who has squeezed all the fun out of MS. I am afraid Windows 8 will be the last straw. It more than likely will not run any old software, won't be compatible with today's very powerful machines and will have to be updated constantly so that it can progressively make your computer slower and slower. We have all been duped by this approach so many times before, but now we have Apple and Google to jump to with stable platforms that are way out in front of MS, it is a new ball game. Trust me a major GAME CHANGE IS AFOOT. Where is Bill Gates when we need him? Very sad.

Dave KincaidThu, 31 May 2012 06:49:08 GMT

What a great disappointment Flight is.

Having had just about every version of Flight Sim since the beginning, this was like moving from a Masserati to a pedal car. How Microsoft could possibly imagine that this could replace FSX is beyond me.

ChrisThu, 07 Jun 2012 01:33:36 GMT

MS Flight is a total failure.

Martin75Sat, 09 Jun 2012 23:39:21 GMT

What a letdown! My first MSFS was 1.0, back in 1982, and I've had every last one of them since! To me they are the definition of development advances. I've tried Flight, but it was such a let-down I almost cried. Hopefully they will get to their senses, otherwise they have just opened up the door for competition. Which might be a blessing in the long run. Flight simming is not meant for gamers, that should be obvious reading this thread!

Pro MemberSNAGGERSat, 30 Jun 2012 20:10:46 GMT

Tried MS Flight but its not for me; I prefer FSX as at least I can fly where I want to. This seems more for the game kids and not for people who want a flight sim in a realistic manor.

GooseWed, 04 Jul 2012 11:44:40 GMT

My first comment is about 17 notches up. Even though Hawaii Island is the largest in the chain, there is not much to it other than the volcanos. Instead of offering one big island for free for indefinite period of time, MS should offer all of Hawaii for two or three weeks for free which is much more impressive. I find Kauai and Oahu stunningly beautiful.

If the kids want to bang-around in a game-like manner, that is fine. Many of us however take this seriously. We want to fly like real pilots and professional pilots fly. Some of us are also real pilots. For living I fly an Airbus A320 but still enjoy flight simulators.

It seems like the instrument panels are much brighter now and easier to scan. I first installed Flight on Feb. 29th and four out of the six graphics settings had MAX settings (LOW MED HIGH MAX). I reinstalled Flight in March and now all six settings will go only up to HIGH, no more MAX. I hope MS did not take that setting away and it's just my operating system poor installation. In fact I want all six of them to go to MAX. Let us decide which settings are best for us. High end computers will run this game in MAX, all six of them. I will reinstall my system again and then Flight and I hope MAX settings come back.

For reasonable $15 I just installed Alaska. I had some installation issues, now okay. Just like Hawaii, Alaska photorealistic terrain looks real and true. Grand. Majestic. The free Cub is very nice, but we want aircraft with panels. Other than the free Cub I only bought one airplane without a panel, the P51 which I really like. I will not buy any other airplane without an instrument panel. That is the kiddie stuff. I enjoy flying manually but I also want working autopilots so I can enjoy the stunning scenery. VOR, ADF, GPS and other navigation capability is highly desirable so we can navigate these vast distances, and real weather, like FSX or FS9. I am sure Jeppessen will be happy to provide it.

MS just keep on going. The southernmost tip of Alaska is not too far away from Washington state. We want the contiguous US. All of it. Then some more. Even if it takes 300 GB or more. Intel will be happy to sell us those 480 GB SSDís. Alternately WD will be glad to sell us their Velocity Raptor hard drives. Some of us will pay hundreds of dollars or more for a fully developed Flight. Those that canít afford all of it can still enjoy parts of it. The Alaska instalation took about 4 GB of space.

Then again there is Google Earth with itís primitive Flight Simulator (go to tools). How about putting on some heat Google and developing your simulator? How is Cascade Game Foundry doing? They can still achieve a lot of success in this field.

Flanker3700Sun, 15 Jul 2012 21:57:29 GMT

I keep FSX, MS flight has no single Airliner like 747s or A380s.

MS Flight is just a Arcade game nothing else, thanks Microsft for the acadesim.

Robert DaviesTue, 17 Jul 2012 09:15:00 GMT

What a shame! Microsoft is trashing every product they have! They have completely lost touch. They are too big to do anything right!

FlightsimmerWed, 18 Jul 2012 16:31:43 GMT

Total epic fail. This whole flight and the new concept is joke. Having to enjoyed many expensive and extensive PMDG addons in FSX and FS9, Flight was a major disappointment. Hopefully xplane of P3D will get better and better. This new Flight is for kiddies, its not a die hard sim, not even medium leveled. This is no sim, its a game for 9 year olds.

Qantas567Thu, 19 Jul 2012 03:30:47 GMT

Absolutely terrible "simulator", not that you can call it one. It's a game for kids at best. Very disappointed and I will be sticking to FSX. Here is X-Planes chance to finally outdo the Microsoft brand in flight simulator. A complete and utter disgrace to the loyal flight simulator community Microsoft; extremely disappointed.

David LeesThu, 19 Jul 2012 18:44:06 GMT

I've had every version of Flight Simulator since FS for the TRS 80 by SubLogic (that's over 30 years). And each new version has been a step forward. One of the major advantages was that it was open for others to add Aircraft, scenery & utilities which allowed you to develop it how you wanted. I used to look forward to each new version with anticipation and was never disappointed. This latest offering is a big disappointment. I shall stick with FSX which hopfully will still be supported by the FS world or reluctantly change to X-Plane. Very sad.

IanMon, 30 Jul 2012 23:29:58 GMT

And what of FLIGHT now?

Gone and abandoned like FSX

I am enjoying Prepar3D which is a supported version of FSX, by Lockheed Martin, and I also plan to try X-Plane

Pro MemberJim LymanMon, 06 Aug 2012 16:29:03 GMT

Very, very disappointing to say the least. Again a money scheme to upgrade to something that is so much worse then the original version. Sadly, I wasted money on something that is limited, un-friendly for FSX as far as importing your "Payed" aircraft, and unfriendly as far as ANY programming goes within a Flight Sim. I have been around Flight Sims from MS for over 20 years "PLUS", and have to say one thing about this. Don't buy it. I have since re-installed FSX and will keep it until the day I die. I no longer trust new and improved from MS. I'll be polite and leave it at that. Sincerely... disappointed... Jim

AmitWed, 15 Aug 2012 19:26:58 GMT

I downloaded the game on the first hour from release and I reget every one of the 30 minutes I was waiting for the game to load. Mabye we should create our own sim or ask companys like Just Flight, Wilco Pub ... to make their Flight simulator. If they will make the sim they would make better addons for it because they designed it. And even kids don't like Flight, I've heard that even 4 year olds can enjoy FSX.

NelsonThu, 16 Aug 2012 09:21:36 GMT

I just downloaded tonight, wish I'd have gotten back on here sooner. I live in Alaska so of course I purchased the Alaska pack. The detail is the best Ive seen aside from water towers & bridges that dont exsist in the real world and missing landmarks when I say landmarks I should say mountains used as nav aids by pilots. I was impressed that I could fly with just the keyboard on my laptop. It is a game not a sim, I have an app sim on my iPhone thats a better sim.

GublerThu, 16 Aug 2012 18:52:37 GMT

I wanted to stick to my FSX but I've got problems with it. Now I went back in time and instlled my FS9 again which is doing very well with Windows 7. But why did they have to bring out some kind of rubbish? Why haven't they just advanced FSX?

Pro Membersabre496Tue, 28 Aug 2012 17:23:30 GMT

Microsoft Flight is a disappointment for me. I have switched to X-Plane. It's difficult at first, but when you are real interested you'll get to love it

AlexFri, 28 Sep 2012 13:27:29 GMT

I was delighted when i got to beta test it MS Flight. But when I found you had to buy land masses and aircraft (NO jets in the game AT ALL) and cant play "offline". Massive let down for me. I uninstalled it and didn't play it again.

Microsoft Flight is a epic failure. On July 25, 2012 Microsoft announced it had cancelled further development of Microsoft Flight.

SteinarFri, 05 Oct 2012 09:55:04 GMT

Tragic that Microsoft crash lands the longstanding simulator project. The market for the primary flight simulator now appears to be vacant. I just hope that in the future PMDG still can be run on a simulator regularly being developed.

chuckSat, 13 Oct 2012 06:40:52 GMT

Flight sucks.... When such talent as Carenado, A2A, Flight-Replicas, ORBX, REX and Aerosoft have raised the bar based on the old FSX platform, there is no excuse for MSFlight to suck as bad as it does with a new one. I was hoping the big guns would up the ante, but they failed miserably...I'm keeping FSX and all of my third party sceneries and aircraft that make FSX what Flight should have at least been. EPIC FAIL MICROSOFT...

james cThu, 25 Oct 2012 01:56:48 GMT

They have cancelled Microsoft Flight. Laid off the Vancouver team that was developing this I've read on Microsoft site.

ray weelerTue, 30 Oct 2012 20:00:37 GMT

For me, X-Plane has the more realistic flight dynamics, rest are just games to fool around....

Pro MemberDaniel LamarcheTue, 06 Nov 2012 21:43:28 GMT

There was this guy on Facebook that was pressuring all visitors to quickly purchase MS Flight with all types of promises. I am happy that I decided to wait for other's reviews. Wonder if some of you got your money back...

Capn RogTue, 13 Nov 2012 00:38:57 GMT

I spent 30 years working for IBM. On one occasion we did a joint project with MS. MS is a complete disgrace, staffed by cowboys. They junked the interrupt interface that DOS had because they didn't know how to implement it properly, so now the Operating system is completely unprotected and programs just jump into the "operating system" code and so does malware! Thank Thor they didn't get to write mainframe software otherwise there wouldn't be a real aircraft flying!

elleSat, 01 Dec 2012 21:00:02 GMT

Worst version of flight simulator ever, even the FS2002 is better than this product. I'm watching the trailer and wait for years and this is what they give us, I know it's free, but soon they gonna try to scam us with it, and they forget that we are smarter than that.

J satinWed, 12 Dec 2012 17:21:55 GMT

I think the ultimate sim would be a marriage between the graphics, aircraft, and scenery of FS X, with the flight dynamics and HDR features of X-Plane... Imagine the F/R friendly dynamics of X-P, with the complexity of the aircraft in FS X... (if I could just figure out how to make a living flying virtually...)

Pro MemberMediatechSun, 16 Dec 2012 18:55:02 GMT

The new sim is a video game joke. I will stick with FSX, there at least you can fly whatever you want instead of being stuck with 1 plane and an island (unless you spend the bucks to add on). Free... my foot, typical Microsoft!

FunbitSat, 22 Dec 2012 04:04:05 GMT

Can't pass by this topic... I feel sad reading all these comments. I would like to see the person who is responsible for making Flight Simulator series a.. GAME! I'm crying looking at their newsletters with "new aerocaches" and screenshots with planes "sitting" on the boats or hangar's roof just like flies. What a shame :(

PS. I'm happy that FSX is good enough to continue to stick with it. Thank you MS for that.

EddieBTTue, 01 Jan 2013 14:24:01 GMT

Have to concur with most of the comments here; massively disappointed. I can understand an area for the simple folk but where's the advanced stuff? Who did MS think were mostly looking forward to this release?

Alas, wider market coverage means keeping it simple for those with short attention spans. So everyone can dream. . . . .

CIA1Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:33:19 GMT

I am CIA1, Call sign is CIA1 find me on FSX today or else.

Bruce OlsenSun, 20 Jan 2013 03:37:31 GMT

Microsoft was on to something great with FS2004. But FSX (10) and this latest deal is a joke. I own three unraped 04 programs. Ive tried 10 several times and I hate it. They've turned this flight sim deal over to a bunch of kids that dont know a dam thing about realistic flight sim. I suspect the reason is we're all dying off, and the only people they can find to write these programs are a bunch of kids that sat around playing video games all day, instead of flying 200 or less approaches.

My wife bought me the flight sim X for my birthday last year , I threw it away.

Joseph ReddingFri, 25 Jan 2013 22:19:45 GMT

I downloaded MS Flight but it is not something I would ever buy. I am thinking that in an effort to reach a wider group of consumers, those who like MS Flight Sim for what it is were ignored.

I just received FSX for 2012 Christmas. After totally immersed in FSX for a month, I do not believe FSX will ever bring me as much fun as FS 2004 has. The FSX program is less convenient at every event. Most irritating is that it is not possible to change to an alternate aircraft while I edit a panel etc in the plane I want to fly.

I am not sure why but most of the add-on planes are zipped once or twice inside an outer zip file which I find crazy. Most of the cab files are located in the individual panel which is easier to find but wastes much more space on hard drive than putting them in the gauge file. Also I do not know if there is a problem, but it seems that using an alias panel or sound is not used as often as it could be. Other than while cruising, I do not use the Hat switch. I preferred several buttons on my J-stick that would snap back forward when released.

With FSX I have to use another button to look forward which is annoying after getting used to FS2004. I would much rather see work on planes and other objects that have a code that would allow them to become a target if hit by ammo fired from planes.

I am pleased that MS Flight Sim has not been focused on the war use for planes. The most obvious good things I have noticed for FSX is the automobile traffic on the freeways and fences around airports. I have not given up on FSX yet, just not happy. ---Joseph (age 67 and did my solo flights before giving up real flying years ago)

Dani5oooThu, 21 Feb 2013 17:10:08 GMT

Awesome game! Might get it!

A'TuinSat, 02 Mar 2013 20:07:33 GMT

Microsoft gave up development of FSX sometime round about the end of 2008 when they got rid of the Aces team. The explanation was that it did not fit in with their corporate vision. Read that as - "We want to shift everything onto either Live or XBox."

However, M$ weren't totally selfish about FSX and passed it over to Lockheed-Martin who are developing it apace. Hopefully they will eventually manage to make better use of the improvements in GPU's, and ideally get round to moving it up to a 64 bit version to gget rid of the out of memory errors when using "too many" add-ons.

At $50 it's got to be an outright winner as a 64bit program.

ElleTue, 05 Mar 2013 09:06:16 GMT

@Bruce Olsen sorry bruce but your comment is full of crap, you might entitled to your opinion about the product, but not about other people who put their comment on this website, btw Microsoft Flight is not Realistic at all, it's not only about the scenery or the plane, it's also about the realistic aircraft on this game that sucks, so stop look down to people you doesn't know

NathanMon, 29 Apr 2013 18:50:16 GMT

MS Flight is cheesy. Not even third party developers. I guess I'll get back in my SimCheck A300B4 and fly the CXR transition into the ILS approach on runway 24L at KCLE.

KouroshThu, 02 May 2013 15:01:37 GMT

I am an Iranian engineer. I downloaded and installed some of these addons on my FSX program, but most parts of each installed items did not worked properly(color covered the airplane body,sound, panels...). after checking I found that in some cases the problem raised from incompatibility of directX10 and some others comes from improper installation. However I want to appreciate from the manager of this site and all people that produce and prepare this addone for the user of FSX. Thanks, Good job.

OxolotlSat, 18 May 2013 18:09:31 GMT

I love flight sims but getting a ride in a real P-51 is so much better than any cheesy computer game

deiniolMon, 27 May 2013 17:31:17 GMT

Its bloody ms again! They brought out several versions of FS until getting it right with FS2004, then they tried to screw more money out of us by bringing out FSX which is probably inferior to 2004 and won't work with W8-64. I am not wasting money on Flight and will probably go over to Flight X which at least is an MS-free zone.

Farras Ezra Caraka PurwaSun, 02 Jun 2013 10:55:23 GMT

its like a game, not simulation

JamesMon, 03 Jun 2013 02:13:10 GMT

I like it very much as far as the 'games' within the game itself. Love finding aerocaches and exploring in general. I have FSX too so I switch back and forth depending on the mood:-)

JamesMon, 03 Jun 2013 03:58:13 GMT

Actually I have both MS Flight (great for exploring and finding stuff) and FSX for a more realistic global exploration experience as I have all Orbx FTX items and Megascenery Earth for the United States plus all Fly Tampa items. Dubai by Fly Tampa for example is amazing.

ClayThu, 06 Jun 2013 14:26:28 GMT

I have MFS2004 and MFSX but I like MS2004 because It has the Boeing 777 and I fly that it in American Airlines in real life. But MFSX has more options and I downloading the 777 add-on on MFSX right now.

TonyTue, 18 Jun 2013 17:08:25 GMT

I really love the Microsoft's Flight Simulators but this one is the worst game that is said to be a simulator. I really hope they do a new Flight Simulator, if they dont, I'll download X-Plane 10 because FSX is too old for my computer. So, if Microsoft really wants money, they'll do that because they won't get too much money with FSX as it's already bought by most Flight Simulator fans.

TonyTue, 18 Jun 2013 18:56:14 GMT

Iv always been interested in flying, Bought all the mfs through out the years, mfs x is really good. been flying for Delta virtual for the past 7 years. Lots of fun, flying a boeing 767-200 as a captain. And now in the verge of jumping to the seat of a airbus a-320. Thats if i pass pass all requested criteria.

AndrewFri, 28 Jun 2013 13:44:28 GMT

I "played" Flight for several hours and enjoyed some aspects, but it misses the truly technical depth of FSX and the previous versions. People who fly flight simulators (the non-military sims) usually stick with it because it's technically immersive. Casual users might be drawn to an easier sim, but consistent users want the option of technical depth. Back to FSX for me.

MARIANO AGUIRREThu, 04 Jul 2013 21:07:26 GMT

I still have FSX because I don't like the other simulators and also for me this is the best.

MikeSat, 06 Jul 2013 06:42:52 GMT

I participated in the Beta and received the free planes and flew in Flight for a few days before I accepted that this was an arcade game and not meant to be a simulator like FS2004 or FSX. That's OK, I guess. Microsoft can aim for which ever market they think will give them the best return on investment. I think they made two mistakes: 1. Thinking that flightsimmers would go for it 2. Thinking that gamers would like a boring "fly around Hawaii" game without the enemy and guns to shoot them down with. One thing though, I can't help thinking about all the negative response to FSX when it came out. "I'll never change from FS2004" was the war cry. Look how that worked out.

Pro MemberJim LymanMon, 08 Jul 2013 17:55:10 GMT

Very very disappointed,I will be sticking with FSX for sure. The Arcade style game is just what it says. An Arcade! Online is of course not an issue as myself, along with many other brother pilots have mulitple servers, the best thing that could have happened with gamespy did happen for those of us who are serious or real world pilots. Many of us went out and spent the money with the hopes of something maybe just a little bit better or a little bit more realistic. Again, a BIG disappointment. Bottom Line, It will be a very long time before anyone comes up with a better solution then FSX. Keep rocking FSX, myself and at least our VA groups are still using it hard core.

zl2bmhThu, 01 Aug 2013 08:38:26 GMT

Try Orbx 'Global', now we are talking real scenery.

Larmador AviationTue, 13 Aug 2013 09:48:00 GMT

nice video and the game seems realy cool. but... someone knows what's the name of this song?

owen samuelsMon, 26 Aug 2013 12:32:15 GMT

I love fsx, I downloaded half of all planes

Pro MemberGary Lloyd-CoxheadThu, 19 Sep 2013 11:45:54 GMT

Its not for me. I have never really played 'games' on my PC apart from say Solitaire or Spider, so this variant has no appeal for me. It is a game, aimed fairly & squarely at the non-simmers market but I think it will fail there too as it doesn't offer enough excitement for people who are used to epic battle games etc. Shame.

Pro MemberJeffflyawayFri, 20 Sep 2013 08:50:11 GMT

Dave,

Do you work at Microsoft?

"understand there are many more projects for them to work on than just flying games over there"

Seriously?

Yes I would agree with you, it is obvious they are working on other projects because they certainly haven't put the time, technology and manpower in the "New & Improved Version Flight Simulator" Microsoft Flight.

Microsoft should be hiding in shame with this "new" release. After 5 years this is what they have developed. FSX compared to the new Microsoft Flight is like "upgrading" the MS Xbox 360 to the new Xbox version coming out soon, starting the game and having it look no better than PONG. A huge disappointment.

The biggest mistake is following Apple's attitude of "we are so great alone the customer does not need other companies" they lock out all the 3rd party developers which is where most of the creativity and best add-ons come from, many great ones being free, keeping FSX up to date in every category possible on a daily basis. In my library of add-ons, hardly any of them have come from Microsoft, so they have shown over the previous years going forward alone isn't going to make for happy customers of MF.

MF is a total failure and by the comments, 90%+ of the people agree. I had to look at the month to make sure it wasn't April 1st.

Jason GoodwinTue, 01 Oct 2013 01:59:46 GMT

I can't remember all the details it's been so long now. From what I can remember, the ecomomy played a big part in Microsoft dumping the franchise. The market was too narrow to make the cut. The sub contractor that made FSX has done one hell of a job! I have followed MSFS for a long time, X-Plane too! I like that X-Plane has a design studio built into it, no multiplayer though...

The thing that my disbanded FSX brothers and I have been craving is a multiplayer combat sim! A good one! Anyone ever have the Janes Combat Sim years ago? I really learned a lot there! I really think Microsoft is missing the boat here. I know I would pay MORE for a MSFS11 that was worth a damn. Thx, J

JockoTue, 08 Oct 2013 06:44:36 GMT

Dave said, "Stop your damn complaining". The fact is: Constructive Criticism is not complaining

Fred MyersMon, 02 Dec 2013 22:22:52 GMT

This post should go away as did MF. Let's get more on Prepar3d in here instead! ;)

Pro Memberpon113cho114Mon, 02 Dec 2013 23:30:23 GMT

Wasted my money on X-Plane. Got NO HELP from Them. They never responded to my calls or my e-mails.

DeathcruzerMon, 23 Dec 2013 04:57:52 GMT

I fly the real deal... this new game is exactly that. It will appeal to everyone because it is a game. It has very little that even comes close to real aircraft. MISSED OPPORTUNITY HERE I THINK. FS 2004 is still the closest simulator to real world reality. There is a dedicated community in the world. providing as real as possible an environment for them would have been a better idea.

James 'Pratt' LennonThu, 30 Jan 2014 21:56:52 GMT

I too have FSX with all the trimmings-Orbx entire library, loads of add-on planes/helicopters (that's one thing that Flight left out and a jet or two would have been great as there are some aerochaches only obtainable by heli or high altitude jet). Also lots of other scenery add-ons for FSX including Megascenery Earth (several states and a couple of city packs). The list goes on however with both FSX and Flight on my system I switch back and forth, Flight for fun and challenges/imagination (BTW the Alaska add-on for flight is actually really cool). FSX for more realism and the 'simulation' aspect of flying aircraft/helicopters and real time weather and time of year.

carlcatTue, 11 Mar 2014 04:30:01 GMT

As a flight simulator enthusiast dating back to 1988 with Microsoft flight simulator 3.0, I was really looking forward to the next generation after FSX. If you've tried "Flight" you can imagine my disappointment. I can understand the thinking of making something with a wider appeal but Flight doesn't appeal to the gamer or the simulator flyer. On top of that, so many addons , it would take a fortune to cover the world and forever. Why would anyone buy it? I'm looking forward to the next generation after Flight, in the mean time I'll continue to buy addons for FSX. Microsoft sim dudes, wayyyyyyyyyy off this time.

Wilbert Williams Jr., M.DMon, 17 Mar 2014 22:00:19 GMT

I flew Micosoft for many years and loved it. I will download the free version on my Mac.

PeterFri, 21 Mar 2014 11:04:16 GMT

I have attempted to reconcile my views with this new offering of Flight, but it is glaring obvious that to control the fiscal side of the product, the FS community is lost. Surely the loss of the development team for FSX was a ideal time for a new approach to the FS community. This development has missed the mark and I would suggest as an element of greed that has crept into the mind set of the flight development, it is a sad day for all concerned for this long established community. It is not too late for a rethink and remodelling for the long term product. I feel sorry for the flight development team who were riding the tide based on the past only to be led by the nose for product that,from all data shows it is a flop.

UKV1306Tue, 01 Apr 2014 17:18:13 GMT

It is designed and offered free to get more people interested in FSX. I still fly FS9 (2nd hand) and thoroughly enjoy the technicality of airline piloting. I wouldn't expect all teenagers to understand the rules and regulations of separation, flight planning and VFR regulations. Some I fly with do, from a fascination with aeroplanes and flight. It's free, it will bring more people to the hobby. I hope they join Fly UK, one of the many vitual airlines that fly in virtual airspace to rules as close to AS REAL AS IT GETS as possible.

Joe HenriquesThu, 03 Apr 2014 15:21:05 GMT

My opinion using FX or FS2004 is quite a big difference I'find FX no good so FS2004 is the best. Joe.

Linkee CarrilloFri, 04 Apr 2014 20:41:43 GMT

I love Microsoft Flight simulator X is the best one i have tried so far

StanThu, 24 Apr 2014 17:02:17 GMT

I use FSX flying on VATSIM with a virtual airline within the VAFS framework. I am able to fly any aircraft in the VA hanger usually using the Twin Otter or Boeing 738 taking passengers across Europe. Am I able to do this with Flight? No. Will I ever be able to do this with Flight? Not very likely. Microsloth left FSX to die.... but it didn't. 3rd party developers have picked it up and run with it producing freeware and payware aircraft and scenery and populated at least 2 online flight networks. Will those 3rd groups get behind Flight in the same way? Since Microsloth have already abandoned it the answer is probably a resounding 'No'. I suppose I wanted a FSXtra. A flight simulator able to use today's modern multi-core chips, high-end graphics cards and high-tech sound-cards and yet, be compatible with these 3rd-party add-ons we all have. Was I asking too much? Apparently 'Yes' because Flight isn't this. And never will be!

yayaFri, 30 May 2014 00:28:36 GMT

I just don't get what Microsoft was thinking about this. Why do you need the game to appeal to more gamers? where the few million simulator pilots not enough? you people must have been high or drunk or something when making this game as it is the supreme ruler of epic fails? I think that should cover it all. Just plane old don't get it. plus Microsoft is lucky this web forum don' let its users curse because believe me it wouldn't be pretty!!!

P.S. note that about 99% of the reviews here are negative!!!

RichardSat, 31 May 2014 17:30:15 GMT

FSX is continuing to expand...look at all the hardware and add-ons that are available for it! Everything from joysticks, to overhead panels, to complete cockpits. It didn't happen because of Flight. It happened because of FS9 and FSX. Flight would seem to be a lame duck in regards to third party support, so why bother? Microsoft is the loser on this, not the flight sim community.

Flightgear is betterFri, 13 Jun 2014 14:47:26 GMT

Flightgear is the best. It's free too. Microsoft is s***.

SalFri, 11 Jul 2014 02:06:26 GMT

Why would you develop a new product without Aircraft compatibility? I have finely tuned 160 FSX and 2004 Aircraft to maximize my experience. I am not a Gamer but I do run FSX on a Alienware18 for performance. I think Microsoft Flight is a product without much of a future in its current form.

Flight proSat, 16 Aug 2014 10:28:12 GMT

wow the demo and full version is terrible it won't even find my equipment without crashing the whole application

ScottyTue, 26 Aug 2014 08:23:44 GMT

I just bought a joystick, apparently they're out of fashion!!! I like to play games but I like Flight simulators too. Microsoft's latest effort is neither. I'll continue enjoying FSX flying all over the world & when a good space game is finally released (yes I spent a younger life on an Amiga playing Elite) I'll enjoy that too. This shift away from anything using a joystick or heaven forbid Force feedback is simple laziness in the race to make the next easy dollar. Shame on you Microsoft.

Dave RaFri, 12 Sep 2014 20:45:42 GMT

I love Flight! It's not a replacement for Prepa3d, but it's a fun quick jaunt. I bought the AK pack as well as the standard HI pack, and I love it. I live on the Big Island and have lived in Alaska, so I love flying around them.

Fun!

darienFri, 03 Oct 2014 10:01:01 GMT

I'm disappointed with it. that took the simulator right out of it quite literally

Ken ManwellSun, 26 Oct 2014 18:37:58 GMT

Sounded nice, looked interesting, BUT I could not find any instructions for the dumb thing. No control if the aircraft on the ground. VERY disappointing.

Archangelmj12Wed, 29 Oct 2014 00:40:32 GMT

Kind of pissed as well as heartbroken about the gamespy closing with the fsx online BUT I havw found a site thats doing ok whereas you can play online. Kinda quiet there ,one of those teamspeak trips.personally i think the use of comminication should be up to the user rather than the session. But, you got to do what you got to do. Thats whats so different about the newsite located at 23.255.207.47. If you dont have communication as none of the 60 flyers did to day its unreal. A tower is importtant if you take the flying serious. Now if your flying formation or missions again the com helps. They need to get over the teamspeak. Users need to familiarize themselves and look at the histort of ms flight systems and understand that it takes time to encompasss all of the things that make fs fun. They are cautious not to go onto the internet and not just download programs for fear of viruses. I cant blame them, I hadthe 5th fs fsx download website and i lasted 3 months before i was hacked. Hey ,some competitors dont like freebies other than there own. Have a great flight and see you at that site.

ben powellWed, 29 Oct 2014 09:54:39 GMT

its alight but FSX is beater trust me I no

AdvaitWed, 26 Nov 2014 12:44:48 GMT

Very Bad. Sticking with X-Plane 10

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